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    Default SYNC sound for 24p

    My experience thus far has consisted of recording 24/48 and 16/44.1 for NTSC DV and miniDV.

    I have just got hired to do a full length feature on super 16mm where I will be recording on a Sound Devices 744t at 24/192.

    QUESTION 1-
    Having not to do any pull ups / pull downs thus far, I am a little confused at what timecode/frame rate I should set the 744t to? (It is capable of 23.976, 24, 25, 29.97DF, 29.97ND, 30DF, 30ND) Should I be using an external timecode generator? Is a timcode slate neccessary?

    QUESTION 2-
    Also, after recording at the appropriate timecode/framerate, what will be the process of getting the recorded audio available for the dailies? (I have access to Pro Tools HD3 for this and Avid Media Composer)

    QUESTION 3-
    Is there any other problems or complications you can forsee in this setup?


    -If you have any additional questions for me please ask them.
    -I am not asking what CAN be done here - but what is the BEST way to do it?
    -Also, when answering (to keep things easy) please note which question you are answering.

    Thank You

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    go to the editors guild website. The C.A.S. just had a seminar on just this topic. There is a power point on frame rates and sample rates. If it is shot at 24, and you record at 48048, post will need to do a pulldown to sync to the NTSC video transfers. If you can get the cinematographer to get his crystal re clocked to 23.976, and you record at 48000, no pulldown is necessary. Don't quote me on this. I'm still a little fuzzy on it. The main thing to do is a sync test. Shoot some footage with some clappers and someone talking on screen. Have it telecined and see what works. This will save money, time, and headaches later.
    Charles Dayton, C.A.S.

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