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    Okay, so here's another sticky based loosely on the request of members.

    The concept here is to provide positive information about a mic or pre that you find indespensible. Give us the skinny - tell us why you like it and what you've used it for.

    Here are the guidelines:
    *As your subject, post the name of the device and the model number (eg. Schoeps Collette - CMC 6/MK 2 h). In the body, tell us your opinions.
    *Feel free to reply with your thoughts regarding these products.
    *Try to keep it positive. If you disagree, try posting a new thread and link to it here in the sticky. That way, we can keep the positives and the negatives clearly seperated. (Less confusing that way.)
    *When possible, provide sample recordings of the gear your touting.
    *Provide substance - please don't post "I like the X mic cuz it sounds good." Give use some details, tell us why you like it. Tell us how you've used it with success. Also, try not to reply with "Yeah, what he said." Let's not have to wade through a bunch of "me too"s to get to the meat of the conversation.

    Enjoy!

    J. 8-)

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    OK Jeremy, you'll hardly be surprised to find that my vote will be for the AT4060.

    This mic is astonishingly good. First of all it is very clean and clear, but when thigs take off, it makes things sound HUGE. Natural yet euphonic. Of course no mic is really neutral, but it can only give the impression that it is. This mic can take the edge off things, but makes them appear that that is the way they sounded in the first place. It also does that intangible expensive sound thing that I associate with mics that cost a whole lot more.

    Voices in a good location sound amazing, but the only limitation is that it is cardioid only -I rarely use multi-pattern mics in cardioid mode. This mic sounds like it was designed to record small vocal groups. I have yet to put it up in front of an operatic soloist, but I can imagine that the results would be great.

    My favourite trick is to mix in a little U87 (positioned a few inches underneath) just to give a hint of that crispy midrange detail.

    John

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    OK I'll bite.

    I know I've mentioned this in the past in an odd place or two, but here seems to be the actual place for it. I include it here because even though you can't walk into 'Pre's R Us' and buy this thing, they are occasionally to be had used, and it's tough to beat as far as bang for buck.

    The pre is called an Altec Lansing 1567A. It was made just after the earth cooled. All hand wiring, and tubes.

    I scored mine at a garage sale for $5, thinking it was a regular amp and we could mic the band and make noise! I didn't even know what it really was and it almost got chucked about 3 times, except that...wait for it...I liked the look of it, oh and the smell when you open it up. A bit of lurking here and a Google search and I found out what this thing really was.

    It has 4 channels of mic pre, using 12AX7's, (as well as a 5th, line in pre that I ignore). It takes those 5 channels and mixes them into one. That doesn't sound too useful, until you do a few mods.

    I took it to an electronics guy and for 600 'Dollars Light"(about $500 US) he went in and bypassed all the mixing section so it's now a 4 into 4 pre. Each channel now only has XLR's in and out, and it's own attenuator.

    So for $150 a channel I have 4 channels of all tube pre. I tell you this because even if you were to pay 4-600 on the unit, by the time you did the mods, it would still be a gret deal.

    Why do I like it? Well I'm not supposed to say, "Because it sounds good" so I won't...Ito my ears it sounds great. I'm willing to bet the music in heaven is run through 12AX7's before it goes to the Holy Amplifier.

    Now the spec sheet says it only goes to 15K. Boo hoo. There's more to life than high end. I figure any loss in range is more than made up for by the fact that I'm here to make music, and tubes, in my opinion, make music sound better.

    So to start my studio with 4 channels of tube and stick within my very limited budget, I couldn't be happier.

    Check it out. Here's what the unit looks like. If you buy one you gotta do the mods though. I don't think they're even that technical to perform.

    http://www.mojopie.com/blackbox2.html

    Cheers mates
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    My choices would be for the following

    B&K (now called DPA) 4006s

    Neumann M-50 microphones

    AKG Blueline series

    AT-4050s

    RCA 77DXs

    Bluebird

    I like all these microphones for the simple fact that they all work well, they sound good and I have used them for a number of recording session without any technical problems and they do well with what they were designed to do.

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    I have a dream

    Millennia HV-3D Eight Channel Microphone Preamplifiers 8-)

    Im just waiting for some one to sponsoring mee :roll:

    That would bring up my recordings a level :shock: or ????

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    Schoeps CMC621 - just astouding transparency, especially in a wide ORTF configuration.

    Audio-Technica 4050 - I just get alot of mileage out of these, so much so I have 3 now and can always find a use for them. Close micing strings (particularly mandolin) in omni mode is just one of my favorite uses for a 4050.

    I don't know if it's "to die for" but the True System Precision 8 is a wonderful pre...just every so slightly on the "juicy" side of transparent.

    While not a pre or a mic - my Metric Halo Mobile I/O is an indespensible part of my location rig and deserves an honorable mention.
    Steve

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    Here's an interesting one (err, 2)

    I just recently purchased a rather famous variety of stereo ribbon microphone and after trying it on just about everything under the sun, I just couldn't dig it. As a matter of fact, on some things, I just downright hated it. Considering the $$$$, I was quite disappointed. Fortunately, I was able to recoup all my hard-earned dough and drop it on a couple other mics.

    Still wanting a ribbon, I purchased a Beyer M130 - a mic which I'm quite familiar with already as I've used it numerous times before. I just don't have enough positive things to say about it. The price is AWESOME and the sound is smooth, lush, full and as realistic as it gets. It's also a damn cute microphone! Output really isn't a problem - it's hot enough to use just about any preamp and of course noise ain't an issue. I'm hoping to publish some recorded cello samples soon.

    The "sleeper" was from RODE. I'm already familiar with many Rode mics too (I've still got one of the original NT-1's from way back when...) After having made up my mind on another mic, my sales rep at sweetwater suggested that I try the K2 Tube mic from Rode. Of course, if I didn't like it, he'd take it back. Uhh, he ain't getting it back!!!!!

    I haven't been this impressed with a mic in a LONG time! The K2 should cost $4,000 - not $600! For solo voice - male or female in just about any flavor, you can get an amazing sound! I tried it in the studio the other night on 4 different vocalists - each of them loved it and I loved the sound too! What should have been a 1 hour session quickly turned into a 3.5 hour session since EVERYONE kept on wanting to use it. We tried it on all of the voices, acoustic guitar, amplified electric, kick drum, toms, room mic, marimba, clarinet, key jangles and even a flatulant (that guy's not allowed to have pizza in the studio any more!).

    There is a magical sheen to this mic. Not brightness, not forced EQ sound all too common on lesser-grade "me too" mics that try to emulate classics. The sound of this mic simply makes things bigger, more lifelike and open.

    I don't know how the Aussies are doing it for so damn cheap, but if you're looking for a tube mic or any LDC - BUY IT NOW before they figure out just how good of a mic they have and then jack it up to the same price as a M149. (Which was, consequently just bumped from my short list of mics to buy! I don't need it now with the purchase of the K2. Not to say they sound identical, cuz they don't! I just now have a great sounding tube condenser with switchable patterns which will work for so much - I don't need to drop the $4K+!)

    Everything about this mic screams quality! The shockmount, although mostly plastic, is big, sturdy and quite effective. The cable is rugged and LONG! The body of the mic is finished as well as any German competitor and the CASE....The case could fit all your fishing gear and a game rifle with room to spare!

    I'm thinking a couple more of these might be in order so I can:
    Blumlein
    Decca Tree
    XY
    AB
    MS
    or whatever the hell else I wanna do for the moment.

    BTW - this mic will do JUST fine in an orchestral situation. It should be great for soloists (vocal or instrumental) or woodwinds/strings. For brass, it would not be my first choice, but I'm sure it would work. As for orchestral percussion - this might THE mic.

    J.

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    I just recently purchased a rather famous variety of stereo ribbon microphone and after trying it on just about everything under the sun, I just couldn't dig it. As a matter of fact, on some things, I just downright hated it. Considering the $$$$, I was quite disappointed. Fortunately, I was able to recoup all my hard-earned dough and drop it on a couple other mics.
    C'mon, Jeremy, what mic. Name names. And what preamp did you use with it? SF12? SF24?

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    hey Jeremy

    I concurr on the k2. I bought one when they first came out and soon after I had to get a second one. Great on male & female vox and I've been recording congas and percussion with these mics a lot with great results. A real treasure for about 6C a piece (or a bit less if you look around- I think I paid around 550 for each of mine)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidSpearritt
    I just recently purchased a rather famous variety of stereo ribbon microphone and after trying it on just about everything under the sun, I just couldn't dig it. As a matter of fact, on some things, I just downright hated it. Considering the $$$$, I was quite disappointed. Fortunately, I was able to recoup all my hard-earned dough and drop it on a couple other mics.
    C'mon, Jeremy, what mic. Name names. And what preamp did you use with it? SF12? SF24?
    Sorry, didn't mean to tease. I just recently got beaten up by a software manufacturer whose multi-thousand dollar product I compared to a $40 product from a partner of thiers.

    Though, I would expect that the fine gentlemen who make these particular mics would gladly accept my opinion.

    I will say:
    Silly
    For me, I replaced
    1 stereo Mic with
    2 mono Mics

    I used True, Grace, Summit, Millennia, and Amek

    They were smooth sounding, but IMO, to a fault.

    J.

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