Thread: My quest for lighter gear!

I'm playing with you. We're talking about simple gear for a mobile rig and sound quality. Not just what you want or are buying. Please leave your personal take out of this.
You are reading way to much into me.

You mentioned both these converters in earlier posts and also asked for opinions so I gave mine too. I'm keeping it real for both the end user and manufacturer

Cucco, I own all the gear I am giving opinions on. I say it the way it is and don't promote or compare something unless I've had hands on experience with it. I'm not interested in being all fuzzy or winning friends in a public forum. There is no frontal attack on RME either, I love RME, especially the ADI-8 QS for hybrid converters ( I own 2 of them). I really like the FF800 for mobile recording but in comparison, they do not sound as rich as the simple Lavry Blacks. FF800's however are excellent interfaces and choice. They are popular for a reason. Some people will find this post interesting and can count on my opinion being truthful or helpful too.

To elaborate: The Blacks are designed for light weight mobile recording and mastering. They are exactly (fit) something you were asking about. You mentioned using the FF800 in an earlier post, and because I've owned those too, I gave you my opinion on the sound quality of all the above and some extra info relevant to this discussion to chew on I have done comparisons on all these products, you can disagree
I don't care if you don't like my opinion, I just want to know if you've used them and WHY you think they are overpriced? I'm trying to understand where you are coming from here. Why are they overpriced and what did you compare them too and how were you using them? Nothing fuzzy here, just wanting to know how you get to that conclusion?

Plain and simple: Your opinion on Lavry was a bit off because you are placing them into a lower bracket of gear and for that I ask you if you, have used them or done an actual comparison?


regards,

Okay, Just read you last post, no worries.

Originally Posted by Cucco

To me, the AD converter is the single least important part of the signal chain. The difference between a great converter and a decent/good converter is marginal at best and is easily overcome by using a different mic in a different spot, etc.

Kind of a contradiction in all this but its cool. I understand where you are coming from now. I agree and disagree. If I was on a budget, then of course. If you need 10 mics and you need to make a choice of one high end converter or ten mics, well... no brainer.

There is a sweetness that comes from quality converters and rash , closed in sound that comes from less quality. Converters do influence everything that goes in and out of its path and for that reason alone, you got to wonder what its doing to the over all sound. When I am recording classical music, I want the best sound I can get. If I am using DPA and Royer, I want the best sound I can get. I want clean, full and transparent signal.

Cheers!

Chris -
You're getting really defensive and really offensive. I'm not sure where the hostility and pissing contest is coming from.

I never asked for anyone's opinions on the Lavry or the RME. Yes, I've owned (or do own) both. I owned a dBTech converter for quite a while. There are even some pictures floating around on this website where the converters were being used in my live setup.

You're welcome to your opinions. I don't dispute them. You hear things differently than I do. I have a very classical approach to everything I do and hear. I don't suspect that you do. That's not to say that mine is inherently better than yours. Just different.

I don't know how I could claim to make differences and comparisons between gear if I've never heard or used it before, so yeah, I've used this stuff. I played with the Lavry Black for about 2 seconds. I didn't get that much time in on it for two main reasons:

Its form factor is such that it won't easily rack mount the way I need it to
It requires external power (if I'm going with a little 1/2u device that is designed to be carried, I want a battery-powered option)

I don't want a fight here. I'm just here telling you what I purchased and how I'm using it. I told you that I'm not interested in the Lavry's because they're too expensive and because they're not the right form factor for me. You don't have to spend the next several posts attacking me and my gear because it doesn't live up to your standards.

Bottom line -
I have a decent location-based setup. It's big. I wanted something smaller. I bought the USBPre2 and am happy. That's my story. If you're upset that I'm dissing the Lavry's, sorry buddy. To me, they're not worth the price.

Originally Posted by bigtree

Okay, Just read you last post, no worries.



Kind of a contradiction in all this but its cool. I understand where you are coming from now. I agree and disagree. If I was on a budget, then of course. If you need 10 mics and you need to make a choice of one high end converter or ten mics, well... no brainer.

There is a sweetness that comes from quality converters and rash , closed in sound that comes from less quality. Converters do influence everything that goes in and out of its path and for that reason alone, you got to wonder what its doing to the over all sound. When I am recording classical music, I want the best sound I can get. If I am using DPA and royer, I want the best sound I can get. I want clean, full and transparent signal.

Cheers!

This is coming off as rather holier-than-thou and insulting Chris.
It's not a contradiction at all. Please tell me what part is a contradiction.

Also, the last time I checked, I've been recording classical music for around 15 years now and have a few label credits to my name. I know how a good converter sounds and how a bad one sounds. I also know how to use a tool for its purpose. If the sound of your recording is being destroyed by a converter, then the bad news is, it's not your converter.

YIKES! Cucco, you are getting way too personal here. We're adults talking about gear for gawd sakes. Please chill.

Chris -
Please re-read this topic.
You'll see that the moment it derailed was when you started bad-mouthing my gear and my opinion.
If you don't see that, then we have an issue.
If you do see that, then we don't.

Your posts read like:
"Look - I have no problems if you have opinions, as long as they agree with my own!"

J.

Originally Posted by Cucco

Chris -
Please re-read this topic.
You'll see that the moment it derailed was when you started bad-mouthing my gear and my opinion.
If you don't see that, then we have an issue.
If you do see that, then we don't.

Your posts read like:
"Look - I have no problems if you have opinions, as long as they agree with my own!"

J.

my apologies.

Lavry AD11 Review

Thanks Bro!
We're on the same team here. I have absolute respect for all that you have done and currently do.
I honestly felt like I was in the Twilight Zone here.
Best wishes,
J.