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    Default So I'm getting a new computer for the studio and I need some advice!


    I'm getting a new computer for the studio, and here is what it should be able to do/handle.

    Computer will...

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    Have to run Pro Tools 8/9HD/10 without ever having a glitch, lag, or latency problem.

    2. Need to record endless tracks (at least 75+) with multiple plugins/VSTs/effects running at once (I mean large VSTs, plugins, effects, etc..).

    3. Need to be able to save and store several large audio files and projects without slowing down the computers performance.

    4. Needs to be able to render audio at the highest available format without slowing down or crashing.

    4. Need to be able to do all this ^ while also running programs in the background with ease
    and once again NOT slowing down the computers performance.



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    Yes, that is a lot to expect, but I'm only doing this so you might understand what I'm looking for in the ballpark.
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    Below is a list of all the hardware I will be putting inside this computer system:


    Processor: (Intel Core i5-3550 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo) Quad-Core)

    Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-3550 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637I53550


    Motherboard: (ASUS P8Z77-V LK)

    Newegg.com - ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS


    Memory (32GBs)

    Newegg.com - G.SKILL Ares Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-1333C9Q-32GAO


    System Hard Drive (120GB SATA III (SSD))

    Newegg.com - OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)


    Recording Hard Drive: (1TB 7200 RPM)

    Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive


    Power Supply: (600W)

    Newegg.com - OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W Modular High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandybridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom


    Please let me know if this setup ^ above will complete my expectations!
    Thanks for being so understanding :-)
    Last edited by skylightdash; 08-18-2012 at 04:26 AM.

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    For CPU, why not get the i5-3570? It's slightly faster, and not much more expensive.
    Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-3570 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637i53570

    I think 32GB of RAM is nice, but 16GB may suffice. Remember in those 32-bit days, we had only 2GB (3GB with hack) of accessible RAM, and already large orchestra libraries were possible. Now, 8GB seems to be the comfortable limit. I have never seen anyone need even 16GB. If you are indeed loading in that many VSTs with large libraries, I suspect your CPU may bottleneck first.

    For SSD Drive, 120GB will run out pretty fast if you intend to store install your sound libraries there. I'd suggest getting a 240GB SSD for all programs and plugins. Then you can have blazing fast loading speed. Yes it's twice as expensive, but if your projects contain VSTis using samples from large libraries, it would suck to have to wait up to a minute while waiting for the computer to load all those sample libraries from slow HDDs. Also, I believe Samsung is the current leader in value-for-money SSDs.
    Newegg.com - SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC256B/WW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

    For HDD drive, I think WD Black is the way to go for speed.
    Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

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    Or you could just get a Quad Core Mac Pro, with an extra internal drive and be done with it.
    The finished studio can be seen here: http://www.darkpinesstudio.com

    The studio build insanity can be read here at Recording.org, and in greater detail at: http://www.dmmobile.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMax View Post
    Or you could just get a Quad Core Mac Pro, with an extra internal drive and be done with it.
    I would completely love to get that setup, but unfortunately I can't spend that much :/ I currently use mac right now, but it is only a 2ghz Dual Core with 2GBs.. I'm only allowed 4GBs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godchuanz View Post
    For CPU, why not get the i5-3570? It's slightly faster, and not much more expensive.
    Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-3570 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637i53570

    I think 32GB of RAM is nice, but 16GB may suffice. Remember in those 32-bit days, we had only 2GB (3GB with hack) of accessible RAM, and already large orchestra libraries were possible. Now, 8GB seems to be the comfortable limit. I have never seen anyone need even 16GB. If you are indeed loading in that many VSTs with large libraries, I suspect your CPU may bottleneck first.

    For SSD Drive, 120GB will run out pretty fast if you intend to store install your sound libraries there. I'd suggest getting a 240GB SSD for all programs and plugins. Then you can have blazing fast loading speed. Yes it's twice as expensive, but if your projects contain VSTis using samples from large libraries, it would suck to have to wait up to a minute while waiting for the computer to load all those sample libraries from slow HDDs. Also, I believe Samsung is the current leader in value-for-money SSDs.
    Newegg.com - SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC256B/WW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

    For HDD drive, I think WD Black is the way to go for speed.
    Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    I will check out that processor.. I did not see it, and as far as the information you gave, I appreciate it very much!

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    Why not look for a used or refurbed Mac?

    Trade or sell your current Mac... it's still probably worth a decent value to at least get you halfway there.

    I'm running an older quad core with 12 Gb and it's got plenty of horsepower to do what you want...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMax View Post
    Why not look for a used or refurbed Mac?

    Trade or sell your current Mac... it's still probably worth a decent value to at least get you halfway there.

    I'm running an older quad core with 12 Gb and it's got plenty of horsepower to do what you want...

    How much did you pay for your mac? Also, what's your processor speed, hard drive, etc..

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    Think I paid a tad under $2500, minus the extra drives... added those myself. (it ain't rocket surgery)

    Spec'd: 2x 2.66GHz w/12Gb RAM, main drive is 250Gb, drives 2 & 3 are 160Gb each.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godchuanz View Post
    I think 32GB of RAM is nice, but 16GB may suffice. Remember in those 32-bit days, we had only 2GB (3GB with hack) of accessible RAM, and already large orchestra libraries were possible. Now, 8GB seems to be the comfortable limit. I have never seen anyone need even 16GB. If you are indeed loading in that many VSTs with large libraries, I suspect your CPU may bottleneck first.

    For SSD Drive, 120GB will run out pretty fast if you intend to store install your sound libraries there.
    The point about the ram is quite true. Unless you are doing video post production hollywood style then 8-16gb DDR is plenty.

    As to hard drive, on all my remote recording computers I run SSD system drives (64gb). For VST libraries I always recommend a separate hard drive regardless of SSD vs HDD. You do not want samples/instruments bogging down anything.

    If you do choose the Mac route-which is a preference of end user and not a requirement-Max has valid points about refurbished units. Make sure your source is Apple approved as an older Mac can be just as abused as anything else. Also, I would still put two extra hard drives in a Mac: 1 for libraries and 1 for audio projects.
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    And that's the name of that tune.

    When running ProTools, it doesn't matter how you want to build your computer. It only matters if you are utilizing computer parts and pieces specified, authorized and recommended by Avid. Otherwise, if you attempt to run Protools, without utilizing their specified and authorized hardware, you will receive NO customer support from them. They will not answer any questions about the dysfunction of your software. Today, at least, Avid has now made it possible for you to use anybody's audio interface hardware. Unfortunately, it still does not allow one the use of just anybody else's computer hardware not authorized by Avid.

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