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36 tracks in LE?

Discussion in 'Recording' started by End Time Omega, Nov 4, 2001.

  1. Hi, last night i was on the DUC, and some guy wrote something about a glitch he discovered in LE. He claims to have been able to play and record 36 tracks. He did not post how, but asked others if he *should* post the knowledge. The overwhelming response was "yes," but this morning (it's actually noon) the post wasn't there. Has anyone heard anything about a glitch?
  2. ednaroma

    ednaroma Guest

    Anyone else heard about this?

    I haven't tried to record that many tracks, so haven't come across that scenario.

  3. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Distinguished Member

    Apr 7, 2001
    I heard a rumor that they were planning on implimenting more track counts into LE...when and if that is true I am not sure...I wouldnt put it past Digi to spread some lies/rumors just to get people to buy it with the hopes of getting more than 24 tracks...But, I think you can manipulate it thru aux tracks....
  4. ednaroma

    ednaroma Guest

    Thanks for the info Opus - I would be interested to know how many of you out there actually use more than 24 tracks on LE regularly? I know I am unlikely to use more than 12 on my digi/LE rig
  5. lwilliam

    lwilliam Active Member

    Oct 6, 2000
    Santa Clarita, CA USA
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    Well, I'd certainly LIKE to use more than 24 tracks with PTLE.

    I run out virtually every session. Where I really need them is in layering background vocals: if I double track 4 bk vox, that's 8 tracks right there. In some cases, I'd like to triple track them - but no way with only 24 tracks. I'd also like to add a doubled or tripled lead vocal part on choruses, for instance, but that's also difficult with 24 tracks.

    Also, I MUCH prefer recording all midi instruments to audio once the parts are complete: there's no midi slop with audio and you can change the buffer size without finding a new midi offset value to compensate.

    With 8 tracks of drums, 4 tracks of bk vox, 3 tracks of lead vox, guitar (usually 2-4 tracks), bass and keys, that totals 19-21 tracks before adding any midi instruments. Throw in the occasional drum loop or an automated printed effect track, it does add up...

    Even if all the instruments aren't playing at the same time (which is usually the case), having 24 concurrent tracks with, say, 64 tracks total (like voices in TDM systems), would be a welcome addition.

    Maybe if you're doing a blues band or recording live bands, 24 tracks would be enough, but not for modern production techniques using samplers, loops and acoustic instruments.
  6. ednaroma

    ednaroma Guest

    Some good points there LW, though it depresses me in that I obviously don't multi-track enough on LE :)
  7. Its funny the administrator deleted the post, saying it had to do with warez. And thats especially funny because there's also a version of pro tools le, the pc version thats been err, "modified" to have I believe 32 tracks.
    I havent downloaded it myself.

    Also there's a bug in le on pc.
    I remember it came up in the duc a few months ago, but at that time I was a mac only man, and since it wasnt a mac thing I disregarded it.
    It has something to do with creating a track...and repeating it a certain number of times...
    Or wait..maybe it has something to do with printing to disk, then reopening a session a certain way and you'll be able to use more tracks.
    I cant remember. But Im almost inclined to send some email's to participants in the thread where posts were deleted to find if anybody caught it.

    he he he he mwahahahahahahahahahaah
  8. lwilliam

    lwilliam Active Member

    Oct 6, 2000
    Santa Clarita, CA USA
    Home Page:
    Well, a rather kludgy work-around was to bounce your 24 track session to disk and re-import it at the end of your "original" song (or just open a new session). Then you'll have 22 tracks left for new stuff. It would just be a pain because I'm always tweaking the individual levels/EQ of the tracks until time runs out and I have to get it out the door.

    If you were just comping vocal tracks, for instance, this might be OK: do a bounce of your session, import the tracks to the end of the song, do up to 21 new tracks of lead vocals and comp them to another track. Then consolidate those regions and use it in the "original" session by pulling it from the audio bin. At least that way you wouldn't run out of tracks to comp from and the vocalist would have a 2-track mix for cueing...but then there's all those plugins on the tracks being used for different purposes "earlier" on the track.

    It's still a bit kludgy.
  9. ednaroma

    ednaroma Guest

    Yes, the track bouncing option has always been there, but I agree it is far from ideal - kludgy is now my word for the day :)
  10. Its a bug that was in the 5.1 release on pc and doing some strange thing allowed you to have more tracks besides bouncing to a stereo track.
    I forgot what it was though.
  11. jeronimo

    jeronimo Guest

    I've seen Pro Tools Free "modified" versio running 32 tracks AND Bombfactory plugs...
  12. moosemaster

    moosemaster Guest

    Was he in the Mac?
    And dya remember his/her nick?
    Who who who?
    Maybe we can flush em back out
  13. LarsfromMars

    LarsfromMars Guest

    Well bouncing is certainly an option especially when double or triple tracking stuff like backing vocals. Just remember to backup.

  14. jeronimo

    jeronimo Guest

    Well, the modified version I saw, was running on a PC!! :(
  15. daryl bowden

    daryl bowden Guest

    It has only happened on PC. Some "experienced computer professionals" (if you know what I mean)have gotten into the code and changed it to allow 32 tracks. The 24 track limit is only because digi wants it that way, there is no hardware limitation. I have never run it myself, or even seen it run, but I'm sure it is completely possible. For me though, it doesn't matter as I never seem to use more than 18 tracks at a time.
  16. lorenzo gerace

    lorenzo gerace Active Member

    Jan 27, 2002

    I've seen the 32 tracks version of PTLE, but 1) it's not authorized by Digidesign (you know why), and 2) it won't run on any Digi's hardware, so just like in the PT Free version you'll have access to two I/O, provided that you're using a 2 I/O card, that leads to sw/hw compatibility issues, as PT is particulary "picky" when it comes to hardware, expecially on PC; forget about any "real" recording with it.

  17. bonneybear

    bonneybear Guest

    Rather than more tracks I would like to see someone use that info to broaden the I/O , Imagine being able to come out 2 or 3 lite pipes instead of 1.Thus being able to mix through analog consoles and gear. Has any one looked into stepping up the 6 analog outs to +4 bal. I have yet to a/b the lite pipe>adat to digi analog outs. anyone been there?
  18. Bob Mould

    Bob Mould Guest

    gerax....the version i've seen runs only on digi hardware. But there is also a version of PTfree that has been "modified for more trackcount" maybe its that one you are referring to.
  19. lorenzo gerace

    lorenzo gerace Active Member

    Jan 27, 2002

    I think you're right, I was referring to the Free version being "hot rodded", but I wasn't aware of another version (LE maybe) with fixed track count being modified... ;)

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