hi there, i'm new here and i have a question that i hope you can answer for me. let me first make it clear that i am no technician or sound expert; i'm an old, but fairly naive amateur musician/writer and i have little to no patience for the complex sciences of harmonics and microphone placement. i will hopefully learn more on these matters one day, but it isn't what concerns me now. talk of what pre-amp and cable type to use stresses me out to no end, and my ears have never been very discriminate to these matters. i either like or dislike a recording as far as sound quality is concerned. i've been working on a simple tape recorder for my demo tapes for a while now, but i would like to move a few steps further, so that i can overdub and re-record certain parts without much difficulty, and output multi-layered recordings otherwise impossible in a "one-take" scenario. i would like to have a small set-up in my house to record rough demos and other experiments, essentially sketches that i could work upon when recording at a later time in a paid studio. i'd like to produce recordings of reasonable quality, like the old scratchy blues recordings of the last century, or the demo tapes we hear on anthology collections by famous recording artists. i need to stress that i'm not looking to create amazing, cd-quality mixes at all. that takes a lot of work and i don't have the time just now. no, i'd like to make home-made tapes that are reasonably clear, with audible vocals and clear instruments. another point is that i'd prefer not to work digitally. i like analog sound because it's warmer, simpler to use (as far as i know) and it has a certain retro charm to it. i can't stand the overly clean mixes that we hear so often today. i'd like to be able to record simply, and to output it onto analog tape. if possible i'd like to work on a four to eight track machine, where i can lay down some rhythmic ideas, before overdubbing other instruments and vocals, finally mixing down onto a tape. i own guitars, drums, basses, keyboards, a small practice amplifier, and no microphones at the moment. so, in the end, i'm asking what kind of equipment i would need to make some decent recordings. mixers, amplifiers, playback speakers, pre-amps, microphones, cables, and so on... it's all new to me, and i don't know which ones i will need to make good recordings. my budget is flexible but i don't want to spend a great deal, so what would you advise me to purchase, and how would i set it all up? i've been searching around on ebay for old eight track recorders, and i found many, but i wasn't sure what other equipment i would need, so i have made no purchases just yet. thank you very much if you've taken the time to read this. if you have any ideas, i would be very grateful if you could respond soon with some helpful advice. god bless.