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A Typical Day Here at the RO Customer Service Helpline

Discussion in 'Recording' started by dvdhawk, May 3, 2011.

  1. dvdhawk

    dvdhawk Well-Known Member

    For those of you who man 'the Hotline' - maybe it's just me, but have you noticed a disturbing trend (even more than usual)?

    I'm continually shocked by how many newcomers prefer to ask advice from a forum of strangers, rather than read the downloadable manual, or do any research - or experimentation on their own.

    Like they say:

    Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.

    Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime.

    Try to prevent the same clueless dumbass from accidentally poking his eyes out with all the pointy things in the tacklebox, and he'll bitch and moan about 'not asking for a lecture on eye safety.' Arguing that he's already a professional fisherman, because he caught a fish once on a bass-fishing video game and only scratched his cornea a little bit doing that.

    Is that Good Bass Response? or Good Bass Response? Can I just trap my bass in the corner?
  2. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    That depends on whether you have earthworms or rubber worms.
  3. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    I.G.S. to whit: Instantaneous Gratification Syndrome. This life has turned to people expecting it now and in different colors and sizes.

    All of you reading this.....THIS MEANS YOU!

    You know who you are.
  4. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Its only going to get worse. The new generation is being force fed from the time they are born. The Parents of this particular generation are blind to it as well. Its the me me generation. Its hard to imagine walking down the street or in a class room texting to someone beside you and thinking it is intelligent. Same goes for Facebook. duh...

    We've pulled our kids out of the school system and they are excelling in every way.

    On that note, RO is heading into the top 100,000 in the world now so our traffic is increasing some. With that, we are getting more members so its par for the course.
  5. dvdhawk

    dvdhawk Well-Known Member

    Growing pains then.

    This surely isn't a problem that's only chronological "younguns", but -

    Geezer alert:
    When we were kids, you looked out the window when you went anywhere by car (because it was usually more interesting than looking at the interior of the car, or my brother). A lot of my son's friends can't go on a 20 minute car ride without putting in a DVD or sticking their nose in a gameboy/PSP. No wonder GPS devices sell so well, young drivers never looked out the window to see where Dad was driving them.

    Read the manual, study a map before the trip and you probably won't need one on the trip.
  6. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    I know its so sad, Dave. Look at people everywhere now, even adults at soccer games or walking downtown on the street. They are looking at their phone. Its unbelievable. People are addicted to cell phones.
  7. Jeemy

    Jeemy Well-Known Member

    Kinda skimmed your post Dave, was a bit too long and wordy. Any chance you could summarise? I'm a very busy man.
  8. kmetal

    kmetal Kyle P. Gushue Well-Known Member

    Helpline is why you get paid the big bucks right? Some people are forced into technology, or they'll be forced out of a job, not everyone who uses it likes it. My dad is 62 and does more texting than i do, not because he updates his facebook status on every breath, but it's how people communicate in his industry (shipping). Frankly i'm surprised people even read anymore, it won't be long till these posts are little crap quality videos. I plead guilty to asking/suggesting stupid, or obvious, things on this site. Heck, half the new stuff i buy doesn't even come w/ a hardcopy manual, they force me to go online w/ my non-audio computer.
    I hate how acceptable it is to ignore someone to answer a text mid sentence. My generation, i feel is truly the last of the people who know what a cassette is, remember what it's like before the internet, remember car-phones?
    People haven't changed however, new devices have just made things a bit different. People are obsessed with themselves and other people. gossip will never die, whether your at a 17th century bar, or on a driod. I blame the person, not the technology.
    Hopefully people will have so much immediate acces to each other they will get sick of it, and desire privacy. (very unlikely).
    The band Death has a tune called 10,000 eyes, and while maybe not your style, if you read the lyrics,
    it's an awsome prediction of the demise of privacy, and an excellent example of forsight if you ask me.
    This post got me going, so as an end to it, It's not all bad. My friend stationed in afghanistan's only window to the world is his limited acces to facebook. Does he care molly ate a big mac and feels bad about it. NO. Does it help keep him sane. Dunno.
    Ugh, auto-gain function on recording equipiment really gasses me. useful sparingly, but i bet i'll be paying extra for a gain pot soon enough, to creatively use gain.
  9. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    It's saddening to see newbies posting on R.O. who simply have not done even a simple search of the archives. However, before responding to yet another newbie post asking the same set of questions, last time I myself tried the R.O. site search I was about to recommend and found that I did not get very sensible hits, or, at least, results that would be useful to a newcomer to the terminology.

    Is it out of the question for moderators to tag individual threads (or even posts within threads) as good newbie info, and then to have the page-top default search box scan only the tagged threads (or posts)? Full searches could be done as usual via the "advanced search" form.
  10. JohnTodd

    JohnTodd Well-Known Member

    I agree with the search problem. I get crazy hits or can't find what I'm looking for a lot of the time.

    Is there any way to incorporate Google's search tech into this site? Google's search is highly refined, even showing results for slight mispellings - engineers may be talented, but that doesn' meen thay kan spel. :D
  11. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

    Blind to it? Heck, they're part of it. I just spent the better part of April recruiting math majors. Mom and/or Dad and kid. I can't tell you all the times that the kids say nothing and the parents ask all the questions. Kids just sit back and let it happen. Helicopter parents taking care of everything. I have a friend in admissions who said that a Mom asked for an extra key to son's dorm room so that she could come in on weekends and do his laundry. And you guys think it's a big deal that they expect us to read the manual for them.

    I do have to give some props to my daughter who never even let her mom and me read her college application essays. Though she does allow me to sign the checks.
  12. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Hey Bob, spot on. That it exactly what I meant, that they are blind to how they are enabling this all. "Helicopter parents" , man that is a good one!
    I think it may have well began one gen even further back by us driving them everywhere.
  13. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Are there bike racks at schools anymore?
  14. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Fortunately, here in the Great Northwest, bike racks are the norm rather than the exception. Kids do get out into the OUTDOORS even though its not without a Blackberry or some sort of cellular device.....Which in this case isnt such a bad thing if they happen to get lost or forget where they hid the car keys......That still doesnt stop them from wanting it ALL right now without them having to research anything.

    Self-sufficiency was imperitive when I was growing up. My Father had no idea how to love someone but he sure knew how to teach things like taking care of yourself to the point of not NEEDING anyone else to do so. The gneration that won the war was, for the most part, horribly deficient at expressing themselves but damn good at gettin 'er done!
  15. lambchop

    lambchop Active Member

    Is it me, or is the new mantra of the younger generation, "I want what I want when I want it!"?
  16. kmetal

    kmetal Kyle P. Gushue Well-Known Member

    I used to skate on the bike rack, that is still there, at the grammar school near my house. They exist. So does public funding/transportation for people who will never make the grades/ or taxable money. Impose a tax break for people who don't use public funding/transportation. In massachusetts, that would be more than enough for kids involvled in 'the arts', after school programs. Mass. funding is pathetic, i care only cuz i have to make a living here. It caters to the 'masses' of sludge. Which is why the same bike rack exists, so do the potholes from ten years ago.
    I have a 1 yr old nephew, bound to know who little wayne is, before led zepplin. At least he still has two parents...
  17. SunDaze

    SunDaze Active Member

    Thanx guys .

    For me it feels interactive and of the moment when I ask a question here.
    And other times I just trawl through and read stuff for insperation.

    I reckon you guys have answered pretty much anything that comes up in here
    already at some stage in da past .

    I used to own a blue racebike until I got wiped out on my way to school.
  18. dvdhawk

    dvdhawk Well-Known Member

    I started this topic, to call out dumb-asses in general (of all ages) - but we seem to have struck a nerve and it's turned into more of generational thing.

    I agree 100% with the notion - if the kid is a snotty little brat - it's not the kid's fault. You can thank the parents for that.

    And I think whether we realize it or not, most of us have witnessed history. Time will be divided again, in this case BC is Before Computers and AI is After Al Gore Invented the Internet. or maybe AI = Artificial Intelligent, which more accurately describes the masses who don't feel like they need to learn anything anymore - because a wealth of information, and misinformation, is just a couple mouse clicks away. You just have to look smart - right?
  19. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    You get beat up if you look smart. You have to look............ugh...err...the NEWEST descriptive phraseology escapes my apparently addled and useless mid-life-crisis brain pan....and by NEWEST I mean the one that became popular ten minutes ago.....Of course thats all in the past now.....
  20. lambchop

    lambchop Active Member

    Now hold on a second!

    I'm going to have to google that! :D

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