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Acoustic guitar mix

Discussion in 'Guitars' started by UCoVi, Jan 28, 2008.

  1. UCoVi

    UCoVi Guest

    I've noticed that on some songs I listen to that have acoustic guitar parts in the begining, there is usually a nice crisp clicking sound from the strings. Its almost just as loud as the actual sound of the chords being played. Anyone know what Im talking about? It almost sounds like they've recorded an entirley seperate track using a VERY light gauge pick and put a mic right at the picking hand and just palm muted the strings and played in rythm. How can I get that out of my recordings?

    Here's a link to a track thats got what Im talking about...just listen for it.

    Google 3 to 1 rule
     
  2. mwacoustic

    mwacoustic Guest

    1) Mic placement - you can experiment with this now
    2) Mic type/model - if you have different mics (LDC, SDC, etc). I don't know what you have or your ability to get more, so I put this second.
    3) EQ after the fact - but only to fine tune after you have gotten the sound you want via the above.
    4) Compression - easy to abuse, so I put this last

    As for the specifics, you'll need to wait for some of the more experienced folks to tell you the details of what usually works, but in the meantime, try working on these (especially #1) yourself - best way to learn.

    You should also note that in the example you posted, there are 2 separate guitar tracks (panned L and R), each with probably different mics, placement, eq, comp, etc. So while just one of them might sound "off" (too much this, not enough that), together they make a nice result.
     
  3. AaronP

    AaronP Active Member

    Alot of that is just coloration of the mic being used. It's real "picky", besides all the added effects.
    Like this:
    http://www.studioauditions.com/audio/Products/Microphones/Audio_Technica/Audio_Technica_AT3060/Audio_Technica_AT3060_Acoustic_Guitar.mp3
    Or this:
    http://www.studioauditions.com/audio/Products/Microphones/CAD/CAD_e100/CAD_e100_Acoustic_Guitar.mp3

    You won't get that by just sticking the mic up by the player's hand, but placement is a huge part of it. I'm right now trying for a picky, thumpy sound with my SM57 (the only mic to my name), and I can kind of fanagle it into this kind of sound after about five hours in front of my computer messing around with effects, and about an hour spent placing the mic.

    Another thing is the chords he's playing sound like where you're playing a bar chord, but you leave your index finger kinda loose, and mute all those stings, so all you hear clearly are the other notes you are fingering. Somethin like that.

    Besides that, I'm not really sure what kind of effects he's using. You'll have to wait for someone with more experience to get an answer there.
     
  4. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    You guy's got it right.

    Some other important considerations to achieve 'that' sound.

    A good instrument - in tune, clean, with new strings.
    A good preamp - the Earthworks 1022 was used on the Studio Auditions tracks, that's a nice transparent pre.
    And you gotta have a good room to play in!!!

    :cool:
     
  5. mwacoustic

    mwacoustic Guest

    +1 on new strings!
     
  6. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    I doubt that the mic placement was right at the strumming hand. This usually leads to too much noise and can distract from the track. There is a nice tight sounding mic being used and a decent pre. I dont think its really really high-end stuff as there isnt a lot of width and depth to the 10 secs. I heard. I would say the instrument in this case is playing the biggest part of the equation.
     
  7. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    That's nothing special in terms of recording. What I hear on that excerpt is a consistent player on a good instrument fitted with new light-gauge strings. He's playing to the mic and not trying to make too much sound. I think the mic may be an LDC, and it's positioned half way up the fretboard to avoid the zing from the pick on the strings being swamped by boom from the soundhole. There may be some DI pickup blended in, and possibly a second mic at a distance to capture the space.

    I assume this is an intro to a band track and not a solo guitar recording. The mic choice, mic placement, preamp choice and maybe whatever EQ used have all been done to get a sound that will sit in a mix with a vocal line and other instruments.
     

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