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AKG vs Neumann Compatibility

Discussion in 'Microphones' started by frankie_75, Jun 27, 2014.

  1. frankie_75

    frankie_75 Active Member

    Hi everyone,

    I'm about to upgrade my mic from AKG Perception 120 to Neumann TLM103 .. the thing is.. will the AKG shockmount be compatible with the TLM103 or do i need an adapter?


  2. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    Doubtful... at least not without what appears to be some substantial modification.

    I mean... I guess it might work...or be made to work... but that's an expensive mic to be relying on "might".

    The last thing you want to have happen, is for a shock mount failure that results in your 103 dropping to the floor (a clip or mount that isn't built to fit a mic, or one that has been modified, is nearly always the cause of in-studio mic damage). One of the most disheartening and painful sounds in the cosmos, is this sound coming out of your monitors/headphones :

    "THOOMPH / CLUNK" ..... and then the worst part....Silence. LOL. ;)

    The mount will also help the mic to hold its value, and be a good selling feature, should you decide to upgrade to another Neumann mic at some point in the future.

    I guess what I'm saying is that if you're dropping $1100 bucks on a mic, it'd probably be a good idea to just bite the bullet and get the shock mount that is made exclusively for the model.

    (The other benefit is that the mount for the 103 also fits the M-147 and TLM 193 models - so should you decide to eventually upgrade to one of these in the future, you'll already have the mount for it ).

    IMHO of course.

  3. frankie_75

    frankie_75 Active Member

    Thanks Donny... for the good advice :)
  4. frankie_75

    frankie_75 Active Member

    I'm truly a newbie but i'd love to improve my home recording .. i believe i'll learn something in this forum! Thanks again!
  5. bouldersound

    bouldersound Real guitars are for old people. Well-Known Member

    If you trade in your old Chevy for a new BMW, would you try to use your old rims and tires on the new car?
  6. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    HATE HATE HATE the thoomph/clunk sound....It simply says, "There goes your paycheck.."
  7. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    Stick around Frankie, there's a lot to learn from the guys that post here ;)

    You say you want to upgrade from AKG Perception 120 to Neumann TLM103. What preamp are you using ? or What audio interface ? and of course what do you record
    Sometimes a cleaner mic is not the best choice for a bright preamp, it may sound harsh. Also, if you are in an untreated room, a dynamic mics may grab less room imperfections .. Just saying !
  8. frankie_75

    frankie_75 Active Member

    Hi pcrecord, thanks i will! At the moment i'm recording with a Garage Band on a MacBookPro, using an Apogee Duet2 audio interface and no preamp. And yes the room is untreated but with a dynamic mic like my shure sm58 the volume is really low... Do i really need a preamp?
  9. paulears

    paulears Well-Known Member

    The duet is a nice bit of kit and the preamps seem to get good reviews. The breakout cable is heavier than the interface which is a pain, which is why I didn't buy it, and got a lexicon which was also cheaper. Garage band is on my mac, but compared to other recording software it's not remotely in the same league. Not quality, just facilities.
  10. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    The Apogee Duet has two built-in pre-amps, so you don't need additional ones, at least for basic operation. The Duet specification says there is 75dB of gain available on the microphone inputs, which is more than enough for an SM58, so your level should not be low. You really are using an XLR-XLR lead for connecting the microphone to the Duet break-out cable, aren't you?
    pcrecord likes this.
  11. frankie_75

    frankie_75 Active Member

    Maybe it was the XLR cable, gain improved a lot when connecting the sm58 directly to the breakout cable! Thanks Boswell
  12. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    Nice catch Boswell !
  13. frankie_75

    frankie_75 Active Member

    :) the good things about being newbies are that some problems are very easy to solve
  14. Born7Supreme

    Born7Supreme Active Member

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/110777187992?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT I just purchased one of these for $98.00 as a replacement for my 103 it comes with Four adapters allowing most large Neumann microphone models to be connected.Here are the listed mics that fit U87 Ai, U89i, U87, TLM193, TLM102, TLM103, TLM127, TLM170. the price is AU 69.99 that's $65.53 US shipping varies on location. it beats paying $129.00 for the standard shockmount
  15. frankie_75

    frankie_75 Active Member

  16. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    It might be appropriate to cut in here with a public service announcement...

    Apogee is an I/O-Preamp made for Mac only. As of this writing, they do not make any models compatible with a PC.

    We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.

    If this were an actual emergency you would have been instructed where to seek shelter...
    (it's a U.S. thing, a relic from the Cold War days... LOL)
  17. Born7Supreme

    Born7Supreme Active Member

    I've yet to receive it for testing. According to specs. It's as follows.
    a solid metal housing, with stretched rubber shock-mount bands that provide optimum resistance to vibrations. The adjustment piece allows for a full 360 degree rotation.

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