All hail Joe Lambert, the high lord of mastering..

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by CreepingCruds, Aug 6, 2004.

  1. Finally got to get a good listen to my tune submitted to Joe for mastering.
    GOOD LORD is that the same tune I recorded in my meager home studio? Sounds sweet & gigantic!!
    I really expected my limitations to hamper the overall outcome, but seriously folks it sounds awesome..
    I'll be posting the before and after here this weekend
    Thanks Joe..

  2. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    That's my buddy!

    Thanks for posting your opinion Jeano

  3. Ammitsboel

    Ammitsboel Member

    I'm very excited to hear the pre/post versions!!!
  4. Here they are folks....

    Here's my untouched, unmastered version of the song

    Here's the version that was mastered by Joe

    I hope Rock & Roll doesn't offend around here....
  5. Sckid Marq

    Sckid Marq Active Member

    Awesome mastering job and awesome song!
  6. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    I love happy endings. Now you have to master the rest of your stuff with Joe.
  7. joe lambert

    joe lambert Distinguished Member

    Thanks for the kind words everyone. I hope this 1 example gives some of you a better idea of what pro mastering can do for a project.
    Keep in mind the mastered version your hearing is an MP3. The 16bit PCM version sounds noticeably better. But your all going to have to buy the record for that!!
  8. by

    by Guest

    Great job, I can tell from my crappy headphones that it's a bit less muddy and sweeter. Oh yeah I matched the levels before listening, it's around 8 db louder. I still like the pre-mastered in terms of dynamics though.
  9. Scriabin

    Scriabin Guest

    What a cool song and I love the band's image. Pretty refreshing to see there's still a band out there that loves playing rock n' roll. When ya coming down to Florida for some gigs?
  10. carlisle

    carlisle Guest

    Wasn't Joe going to post WHAT he did on this? I'd love to hear the particulars!
  11. Ammitsboel

    Ammitsboel Member

    Let's make a guessing contest :D

    What do we think he used?
    ...maybe it is a little hard to find out with only a mp3 file :lol:

    I say he used L2 and... let me get back on that later...
  12. joe lambert

    joe lambert Distinguished Member

    I don't have my notes in front of me but I can give you a basic idea of what I did. At first listen I noticed the low end was muddy. I spoke to Jeano and told him I felt the vocal was a little burried. This is common when mixing on small speakers. Its sounds fine on nearfieds because you don't hear it in proper context if there is a lot of low end which there was. So he did a vocal up mix and it helped a lot. Dynamically the instruments weren't really holding together as a big rock song needs. What I mean is the drums and guitar werent working together as well as I think they are now. I think this gives it a bigger more powerful sound. Some upper mid EQ to help the vocal and guitars have a better sense of space. I spent about an hour trying to get the eq just right. It was a little difficult because I alway's like to get good seperation with low end and kick drum. I had to fine the right spot to roll enouph low end off without loosing the kick/ punch.

    All in all I think it came out very good. I t sounds big and clear on my Big Egglestons and my walkman.
    I had no additional gain via the L2.
  13. Ammitsboel

    Ammitsboel Member

    Did you use one EQ or several EQ's?
    ...I have a hard time figuring out if you used the Maselec, Manley or Avalon from that mp3.
    hmm... did you use the Maselec??

    Best Regards,
  14. joe lambert

    joe lambert Distinguished Member

    Yeh I used the Manley for the low end and I used the Prism for some other eq. I think it was the Manley Vari MU for compression. TWhen I listen to the MP3 file it reminds me why I hate MP3's. It makes me sad that this is how a lot of people listen to music now.
    For this forum purpose I guess it's unavoidable. But the fact that so many people listen to them on there computer all day.. sorry to go off on a rant there.
  15. Ammitsboel

    Ammitsboel Member


    So i was right about the Prism then 8)

    Mp3 is a funny format... not really music to my ears!!

    Best Regards,
  16. maintiger

    maintiger Well-Known Member

    Well, we did use to listen to am radio on little car speakers...

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