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Alternatives to the Reamp?

Discussion in 'Pro Audio Equipment' started by casey, Sep 13, 2004.

  1. casey

    casey Guest

    Just wondering if there were any other boxes that do the same thing as the reamp (http://www.reamp.com)?

  2. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Yes ... it's called a "mixer", "console" or "desk".

    sorry to be such a "smart ass" ... (yes, I can sit on an ice cream cone and tell you what flavor it is).

    Just route the track through the mixer to an aux send, take a line off the aux send and run it to the guitar or bass amp .. Start with the aux sends low and the amp set at the settings you normally use when playing your instrument. Bring up the aux sends until you have the correct volume you want, and slap a mic on that puppy and hit record..
  3. casey

    casey Guest

    thanks Kurt!

    that was the answer I was lookin for.


  4. Screws

    Screws Active Member

    Kurt's solution does indeed work, and I myself have done it exactly that way a number of times.

    But since most mixer's aux sends are line level 600 ohm it's actually an impedence mismatch, and the amp tone is not quite the same as when a true guitar-level signal hits it.

    Here's what I ended up using:

  5. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    OK , OK!! .... if it's that big a deal, use a simple inexpensive Shure type transformer that will bump the impedence up to 10k ohms ... I don't hear a difference myself ... these kinds of impedence issues are more important when you are going direct with a guitar into a console or tape machine and an impedance mis-match "loads" the pick up and alters the tone..

    The Radial is nice ... but expensive.
  6. casey

    casey Guest

    Thanks for the advice guys.

    Speaking of impedance, is it going to hurt the tone of the guitar much if I use a passive box or Y-splitter to split the signal at the guitar? I want to run one side to my amp and the other side directly into the preamp - DAW so I will have the clean signal to re-amp later.

  7. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Yes this will effect the impedance and load the pickups.. In that scenario, you need a direct box that will take the guitar signal via xlr to the pre amp and via 1/4" to the guitar amp.

    Passive transformer based di's are inexpensive but may color the tone (you may like this) .. active di's like the Countryman FET 85 are more transparent but may induce a little more noise..
  8. casey

    casey Guest

    If my preamp has an instrument input (DI), can I just use a Y-splitter to split the cable?
  9. hi.
    new here - but might as well throw in some info.

    i know NewYorkDave has made some schem's. but this one seems it would do the trick your after: (passive DI and REAMPing device)
    first track instrument DI - going inst. to jack - out XLR - to mixer/tape/etc
    and afterwards go the other way around (backwards).

    (called "poor mans DI" or something)

    still looking for a simple to build schematic that offers a passive DI/REAMP device that's able to split the incoming inst/jack signal into two different outputs (like a normal DI box).

    - ced

    ps. but any passive DI box is a really fine REAMPing device if you turn it around..
  10. Fingers

    Fingers Guest

    Steve -- have you used the radial DI with your SCA pres (N72s, J99s) to input e.g. Synths? If so, how does it sound? BTW, last week I ordered the same SCA rack config as yours. Thanks for your reviews of the SCA stuff.
  11. Screws

    Screws Active Member

    The Radial unit I own is the X-Amp, a reamping device, not a D.I.

    I use 2 Groove Tubes Dittos for my D.I.'s. I run bass or synths through them to the J99 - fabulous.
  12. Fingers

    Fingers Guest

    My Bad -- I mispoke. Thanks for the information regarding the DIs. I have a Demeter VTDB-2b that I could use -- at least for one channel. Or I guess a mult would allow for two (or more) channels.

    However, what prompted my question was your mention of the Radial. I own a reamp unit (never used it) and I was wondering if it could be used to to input a synth into a mic pre.

    Does anyone know if this would be an acceptable signal chain: Synth > Reamp > mic pre > DAW

  13. Screws

    Screws Active Member

    You have a reamp - try it.
  14. just try plugging in the synth into the jack input on the ReAmp.
    should work (the "wrong" way).

    - ced
  15. tripnek

    tripnek Active Member

    If you can use a soldering iron, Jenson transformers has a great little schematic on their website to make a reamp type device. They also have a 2 way passive splitter that uses the same transformer. I combined the schematics and made a two in one box. It works great but obviously can only be used for one function at a time. It cost me around $100 for parts but could have been cheaper depending on your parts choices.



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