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Amateur Recording question

Discussion in 'Recording' started by fattydq, Dec 25, 2008.

  1. fattydq

    fattydq Active Member

    I have two questions. Me and my friend have been recording music together for a few months, and we're about ready to record a full length album. We'd like to do everything ourself, because we've already made products on a tascam digital 8 track recorder that are hi-fi enough for our liking, and we don't want to spend money to get professionally recorded. Frankly we like the lo-fi DIY sound we get, but my questions are

    1) For recording our final products, we'd like more than 8 tracks. As I've said the only thing we've been using is a tascam digital 8 track, with external effects and whatnot used. Now would we be able to record onto a computer (we both have macbooks) using some sort of software, and not have it take away from the quality? Keep in mind neither of us has ANY experience with recording onto a computer.

    2) If we decided to just use the 8 track and bounce tracks to allow for more than 8, what would be a good program to mix down our final recordings, and add effects and whatnot, without taking away from the sound of the original?
     
  2. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    How do you take away from lo-fi DIY sound? No issue really just me thinking on the keyboard. Computer recording isn't limited like an external box. So you aren't going to see 8 tracks or 12 tracks. Some read "unlimited virtual" others may ( http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ ) actually have a track limit, so obviously you want to move around that one. But look at it first to see if it has limits that would not limit you.

    Tracktion ( http://www.mackie.com/products/tracktion3/index.html ) is a good entry level user friendly software with no track limit iirc.

    Rather then get a real good audio I/O interface, which many would say do, you should just poke some plugs into the music "in" side of your soundcard, helps to maintain that diy lo-fi sound. No reason to upgrade and get real quality now!

    Let me know if I can be of any further help, old sounding last century lo-fi music is where I excel!!!!
     
  3. fattydq

    fattydq Active Member

    How would I plug into the computer though? Just a 1/4 inch to USB converter cable or something or what? As I said I have a macbook.

    And I do have protools which I've heard is THE I/O interface to use, but it seems very complicated which isn't really what I'm looking for right now. I suppose in theory it would be best to learn how to use that to get the best of both worlds, and eventually I probably will but...

    Oh and it's pretty easy to take away from a lo-fi sound. Just because something's lo-fi (Ween, The Unicorns, The Moldy Peaches) doesn't mean that tone and whatnot aren't just as important as on a hi-fi coldplay recording or something.
     
  4. jordy

    jordy Active Member

    what i believe he means by interface is a hardware interface, not software....like for ex. - m-audio fast track usb. - it has an xlr in and a line in....it then connects through usb....however it would be wise to get a multi input interface. - most multi channel interfaces connect using firewire, but m-audio, line 6, and tascam are all making usb 2.0 interfaces that support up to 8 simultaneous inputs.
     
  5. StephenMC

    StephenMC Member

    Pro Tools is a DAW, a Digital Audio Workstation, not an interface, which is a piece of hardware, like Jordy said.
     
  6. iamfrobs

    iamfrobs Guest

    solely out of curiosity, how do you just have ProTools without an M-audio interface or 00x, or bajillion dollar DSP card?
     
  7. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Good question. I'd like the answer to that one too.
     
  8. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Well-Known Member

    Some of these questions just make me want to drink more... Raspberry flavored water.

    While ProTools does appear to be quite confusing initially? It's really no different from any other confusing program, which are most. Most of what you have done with your 8 track recorder isn't much different than working with software. You know, stop, play, rewind, fast-forward and that incredibly important button with the red dot, record. Channel "record ready"switches. Input volume controls. All that stuff, is mimicked in software. That with all of the other goodies built right in. And you already have it in your ProTools. You just have to use the interface, that came with your ProTools. Plug in a couple of $100 SM57's and you'll be really livin'. You'll never have to know how to say anything intelligent again, because you have ProTools.

    I like that raw sound also. So generally, I take out all of the electronics from my console and just bypass all those noisy circuits. I read once a long time ago that the best sounding electronics is just a straight piece of wire. So when I purchased my used Neve, I took out all of those nasty transformers & transistors. And it no longer distorts my Sound Blaster card on my e-machine. It's much lighter now and easier to move to the dumpster when I can afford my new Beringer.

    Trying not to slat myself too hard.
    Ms. Remy Ann David
     
  9. hmiklautsch

    hmiklautsch Active Member

    if your computer has a firewire input, i say go presonus fp-10 all the way. it has 8 class A inputs, and comes with software to use. and it's $400 at musiciansfriend.com
     

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