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Any advanced recording technique classes?

Discussion in 'Recording' started by marc@soundpost, Jun 24, 2001.

  1. I've been doing sound for many years now, most of my knowledge is from experience. Advanced, hands on training classes for working audio professionals (1 - 3 day intensive, topic driven) would be very intresting to me, and I'm sure others as well. However I don't want or need to spend a year at Full Sail or SAE. Anything like that out there?
    Thanks for any responses.
    Marc McManeus
    marc@soundpostaudio.com
     
  2. Ethan Winer

    Ethan Winer Active Member

    Marc,

    > Advanced, hands on training classes ... would be very intresting ... However I don't want or need to spend a year at Full Sail or SAE. <

    Here's a thought: Buy a half-day or two in a pro recording studio with a pro engineer who's work you admire. Bring in one of your recent projects to remix, but with the understanding that you want to be able to ask questions and learn from the experience.

    I did this recently with a classical music mastering engineer to learn how to improve an orchestra recording I made in my home studio piece by piece on separate tracks. It was a very worthwhile experience and I learned an awful lot. Best coupla hundred bucks I've spent in a long time.

    --Ethan
     
  3. Mixerman

    Mixerman Active Member

    And if TLA happens to be the engineer he admires most, should we expect him to say 'That was the best $10,000 I ever spent?'

    Mixerman
     
  4. e-cue

    e-cue Active Member

    Originally posted by Mixerman:
    And if TLA happens to be the engineer he admires most, should we expect him to say 'That was the best $10,000 I ever spent?'

    Mixerman

    If TLA is the engineer he amires most, I'd call that the WORST money ever spent. Anyone can overcompress.
     
  5. Bear's Gone Fission

    Bear's Gone Fission Active Member

    If TLA is the engineer he amires most, I'd call that the WORST money ever spent. Anyone can overcompress.

    Sure, but not everyone can get an army of sports cars for overcompressing. Maybe buying an afternoon with his agent is where the money would be best spent in this case.

    Bear
     
  6. e-cue

    e-cue Active Member

    Originally posted by Bear's Gone Fission:


    Sure, but not everyone can get an army of sports cars for overcompressing.Bear

    I'd rather NOT overcompress, and do world class mixes & have an army of cool gear.
    I'd suggest going to the record store & buying a couple huge stacks of cd's. I went to Full Sail, and I guess it was pretty cool. But, listening to CD's and trying to emulate what my favorite engineer's did taught me much more than full sail did.
    I went the runner/assistant/engineer route, and did it at a 5-room studio. I got to work with a ton of GREAT engineers, and some not so good. Even most of the lesser engineers had 1 cool thing they did. If you learn 1 trick from every engineer you assist for, by the time you're ready, you'll have plenty of tricks up your sleeve.
     
  7. Bear's Gone Fission

    Bear's Gone Fission Active Member

    Reading this thread again, it occurred to me that a lot of the top engineers and producers until recent times had come out of the staffs of large multi studio facilities where they were mentored by a variety of talents and had these folks as peers when they were able to take charge.

    I'm sure a fair number of the pros here haven't had that sort of a workplace. To compensate, an exercise that might help expand horizons would be to build a local peer network, where you work in an other engineer's studio and vice versa, at least for portions of projects, with the native engineer only assisting and watching. You get to absorb a new working style in a comfortable enviornment, or you get to learn by eliminating habits, crutches, and your "preset" mentatlity that there are fixed ways of doing things.

    Bear

    (BTW, I hadn't suggested armies of sports cars in any way justify overcompressing, if that wasn't clear.)
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  8. Bear's didn't mention it, but here in Austin, you can get an Associate's Degree from Austin Community College in Professional Music Management that includes some great courses in studio recording. The courses can also be taken by just plain folks (as opposed to folks trying for the degree) and don't cost that much. Food for thought. :cool:
     
  9. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    I think I have some stuff coming up around the end of July...if you'd like to schlepp up and be 'coffee bitch' for a couple of days, I'm sure we can arrange it. It's just some demos for some local friends, so I doubt they'll mind [I'll of course have to ask them first], and if you turn into a loud mouthed asshole, you will be sent home [but that happens to any assistant with a big mouth].

    Don't know if that's what you had in mind...but we've been known to do 'an album' in a weekend...which is kind of a 'break neck pace'...and I think you might be able to gain an interesting perspective on things. Give a shout [privately] if you'd like to give it a go...and we'll have to work out some kind of 'schooling fee' :D :D
     

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