Any Hi-End mastering studio headphone recommend?

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by victorke, Apr 15, 2004.

  1. victorke

    victorke Guest

    Any Hi-End mastering studio headphone recommend?

    I have some choice:

    beyerdynamic DT 48e, DT 770 Pro, DT 990 Pro, DT 150, DT 931, DT 880

    AKG K 1000 , K 271 studio , K 240 studio

    Sennheiser hd 650, hd 600,hd 250 II

    Sony MDR-7506, MDR-7509, R-10

    Grado RS-1

    Stax omega II


    Which one is better for any kind of music?
     
  2. TomMaag

    TomMaag Guest

    I don't know about headphones being considered good for mastering, but I hear only great things about Ultrasone headphones!
     
  3. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    Depends. Listen to them all and then decide. All those headphones are very different. Some are better at things etc... It also depends on what you want to use them for.
     
  4. joe lambert

    joe lambert Distinguished Member

    I have headphones in my room. But they are for the clients. They sometimes like to hear it on headphones. The ones I keep in the room are SonyMDR 7509. A good quality headphone that people like. We also have Stax and Joseph Groddo headphones for the people who want a very flat sound. (those Jazz and Classicical dudes)

    The only time I use headphones is while I'm in the gym. I take records home and QC them while I hit the treadmill. There sucky little headphones that do just what I want them to.
     
  5. victorke

    victorke Guest

    What do you think beyerdynamic DT 48 compare with Grado RS-1 and Stax omega II?

    I saw some famous mastering studio use Grado RS-1 and Stax omega II to mastering music but beyerdynamic always use in broadcast , film .

    Anyone give me some comment about Sennheiser HD 650,beyerdynamic DT 48,DT 880,Grado RS-1 and Stax omega II?
    What is the characteristic of these brand?
    What is the sound like?

    I read some information about sony R-10 ,it is very Hi-End ,around 3000 U.S dollars

    Is it good?


    What is the different between closed nack and open headphone?


    What is the different between Hifi audiophile headphone and studio headphone?
    I saw some Hifi audiophile headphone is very crazy price compare with studio headphone.

    I would like to know Which one is better ? no coloration accurate and flat sound?
     
  6. Thomas W. Bethel

    Thomas W. Bethel Well-Known Member

    For the money you cannot beat the Grado SR-60s.

    see http://www.gradolabs.com/frameset_main.htm

    -TOM-
     
  7. Ammitsboel

    Ammitsboel Member

    You're right Thomas.
    I have the SR60 and haven't heard a headphone that sounds better yet... I also find them to be better than the SR80
     
  8. victorke

    victorke Guest

    What is the different between Grado PS-1 and Grado RS-1?
    Which one is better?

    Is it better than stax omega II ,Sennheiser HD 650 and sony R-10?
     
  9. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    I need a new set of headphones and I'm going to check out some grado's. I usually lean towards closed ear type but you never know. I've listened to several Stax headphones, can't remember all the models numbers, and at first they are really amazing but after awhile I find them annoying. They also don't seem to work well with a variety of music. A little too much hi end detail for my taste although i've never tried them with the tube amp. I'm sure that makes a huge difference but they are really hard to find now. All the usual places in NYC don't carry them anymore.
     
  10. avidiv

    avidiv Guest

    What about ultrasone headphone and MBQuart headphone?

    Is stax omega II and Grado RS-1 headphone is the best in mastering
     
  11. TeeME

    TeeME Guest

    Headphones...Ahhh

    It can be done, takes practice to learn the spacial translation.

    Stax Lambda pros.
    Sennheiser Orpheous.

    These do well.

    Not inexpensive. Cost more than very fine monitors but since I have both systems, I have learned to trust them when I am mastering out of town with the portable system.

    Works great!


    For an idea of the level I are speaking of, read this:

    http://www5.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?s=d3037a59823ad083b3d713d72af1820a&threadid=3542
     
  12. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    I'm going to try a pair of the Grado rs1's this weekend hopefully. I've tried several Stax headphones and they don't really fit the ticket for the kind of music I listen to.
     
  13. TeeME

    TeeME Guest

    You will most likely love the Grados. They have a "west coast" sound with plenty of dynamics and smooth as well. Beware, they can go LOUD without you really realizing just how loud they are.
     
  14. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    But i'm on the east coast....
     
  15. TeeME

    TeeME Guest

    With that west coast sound they have and being on the east coast, you should end up somewhere near the middle :)


    i/e West Cost sound (JBL, Infinity) East Coast (Boston acoustics, Kef, etc..)
     
  16. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    Ohio sound...

    But they're made in Brooklyn. So maybe wannabe west coast.
     
  17. Ammitsboel

    Ammitsboel Member

    Yeah Michael... I always thought of you as a wannabee :lol:
    I have the Grado SR60, AKG 240 and Koss Pro/4AA. They are all very different and have their own quality's.
    It also comes down to what headphone amp you are using, what are you all using?
    I'm using the Greek OBH-11 at the moment witch is good but often I find it too sharp and edgy sounding and after and hour of listening my ears are tired.
    I'm looking forward to try a Sugden headphone amp when I can get hold of one... or maybe I should just put the headphones on the outputs of my tube monoblocks!

    Best Regards
     
  18. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    I have one by studio technologies that's ok. I also like the headphone amps in the panasonic dat machines. I think they are pretty good sounding and pleasant to listen to. I haven't really invested heavily in one because I really only use headphones for clicks and pops. I like listening to headphones on the subway and such but find it too difficult to work with them. I did try a pair of headphones at the AES show that places the driver lower down and fires it upward utilizing more of the ear shape. I thought the imaging was very good and very 3 dimensional. They also advertised that their headphones are more magnetically shielding to the brain. Then I read how much electro magnetic radiation is delivered by a simple pair of headphones. Pretty scary.
     
  19. Yiannis

    Yiannis Guest

    Ultrasones HFI 2000G
    Great sound,stereo imaging,very comfortable.
    give them a try.

    Yiannis
     
  20. sie7e

    sie7e Guest

    Ultrasone makes the best phones in my opinion. Check out the HFI-650 or the HFI-550. You can try doing an AB test and find out yourself. Their sound is very clear, and the supression of the external noise is amazing.

    One thing the ultrasone have is that the driver is aimed in an angle kindda pointing to the lower part of your ear. This allows the sound to be captured by your outter ear rather than having the sound blasted directly to your ear canal like phones normally do.
    I guess what I am trying to say is that when you listen to a set of monitors, it is your outer ear that captures the sound and sends it to your inner ear. That is a natural process. Using headphones is like putting small monitors on the side of head aiming directly to your ear... now I know that is not the way you should listen to music. The purpose of the angle used by the Ultrasone headphones is to give you a more realistic listening point of view.

    Cheers

    Jose Luis

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