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Anyone know much about Neve?

Discussion in 'Recording' started by nuclearmoon, Jun 27, 2003.

  1. nuclearmoon

    nuclearmoon Guest

    I just wanted to start a thread to learn a little about Neve consoles and some of these famous modules I've heard about (ie the 1081's, 1066's, 1081R's). Anybody work in a shop with a 88R or a Libra??? I'm just looking to learn, so whatever you know will help!!! Thanks gang!

    Here's a good first question:

    What is the difference between a mini-fader module and a fader module on an 88R? What jobs do the two perform specifically?

    Thanks again and happy day to you all! :c:
     
  2. sheet

    sheet Well-Known Member

    Rupert Neve is a consultant. He started making small tube consoles in England. He was friends with engineers and recording companies/labels there. He built only custom consoles for specific needs.

    When a friend introduced him to transisters, he knew little, and didn't want to know much, as they sounded like crap. But this was the new trend, so he built a few custom consoles with them.

    He was building them in a small outbuilding, with just a few people. It was later that he met up with a shiester who convinced Rupert that he need someone to handle the business, so that Rupert could be free to design. This appealled to Rupert, because he would bid console's without knowing how much they would actually cost, and then support them for free.

    The business guy ran up the debt, and Rupert got into trouble. Finally he had to sell out to someone else, so the company was Neve in name only. The last consoles that Rupert claims are the ones from the 8078 and 8088 periods.

    Neve was then purchased by Seimens, and consoles like the V-series came out. The V is short for Vatican console, as the designer was named Pope. There was nothing Neve about this series or anything after it.

    Neve went onto start Focusrite. He built two complete consoles. There are parts for others around. The co-founder of Soundcraft now owns the "inventory", not the intellectual property. None of the modules have the exact circuitry as the console. There is a lot of marketing hype with that line.

    Neve also consulted with Summit, and then most recently with Amek on console and outboard lines. I have a friend with a 9098i. It is the best console that Rupert has ever designed/built. It has tons of headroom and sounds incredible. If you want one, now is the time to get one. Amek has lost the people that paved the way for the console, helped with the R&D, manufacturing, etc.

    The first 9098's had a cooling issue, and the automation was crap. They have just recently completed the final touches on that. The 9098i has had no problems that I know of. Except that Amek is not actively pushing that console, due to the loss of key personnel, and the fact that the market is soft. Few people can care to offord the best of mixing consoles now.

    The Neve 88R by AMS/Neve is not a Neve designed console. It is their response to the Amek 88R. I have not heard it, but I can only imagine that it is great. I have been told that it is by some golden ears. I imagine that it is supported well.

    The small faders are switchable. It is an in-line console, so it is used for channel or tape return volume.

    The Libra. I have used this console and it is a completely different monster. It is an AMS product. It used to have issues. I was mixing a band on a CBS show, and I needed add a reverb. A stereo return had to be configured. The problem is that when you make a channel assignment, it kills the audio completely for about 5 seconds while it does it. So, it is not a smart purchase for the person that must add channels/change configuration on the fly while passing audio to a video truck or satelite uplink.

    If you want a killer sounding Neve board, and don't have allot of cash, check out the AMEK 51. It does not have the same pots, faders, and heavy-duty contruction as the 9098i, but does have some of the same topologies that make the 9098i sound great. If you want a vintage Neve 8068, I have one to sell ya'.
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  3. nuclearmoon

    nuclearmoon Guest

    So even though AMS/Neve is NOT Rupert Neve, they still do make the some of the best consoles on the market, right? I have a friend that works at Conway Recording in LA and they recently got a 88R and it seems they are VERY proud of the sucker.

    What price range does the AMEK 51 sit in? The 9098i?

    How would one use 1081 modules? Do you install them into an existing desk or rack mount them in some odd fashion?
     
  4. Tungstengruvsten

    Tungstengruvsten Active Member

    this is google:
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    Here's some keywords:

    Rupert Neve
    Neve 1081
    Neve 1073
    Neve 1066
    Neve 1272
    Neve modules
    neve console
    Neve Libra
    Amek
    etc....

    Also, use the above keywords to search the following:

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    And also go here:
    http://www.danalexanderaudio.com

    It's all out there...
     
  5. Tungstengruvsten

    Tungstengruvsten Active Member

    hmmm that's sad that this site blocks another site's address...

    that **************
    is www.pro*sound*web.com <-take out the stars
     
  6. nuclearmoon

    nuclearmoon Guest

    Yeah.....I am proficient at googling, thanks, I was hoping to have actual communications with engineers using these things. Thank you for the links though....
     
  7. sheet

    sheet Well-Known Member

    The 51 is in the 40-50's range.

    The 9098i is in the $250 on up range. There is only one left. I bet that they would build another. I heard a rumor that Soundcraft would build it. That would make the decision for me right there....nope!

    Some of the AMS/Neve stuff is great. The 88R is supposed to be. I would not assume that because it have a Neve name plate that it sounds great.
     
  8. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    the 9098i really is a terrific console....it really is disapointing to see what has happened in the past year....If I had the cash I would buy the last one along with a half dozen spare modules.... :D anyone wanna loan me $250k :D
     
  9. nuclearmoon

    nuclearmoon Guest

    This is exactly what I'm finding in my research. So much has happened in the history of the Neve name. It definitely seems the 88R is one the topdogs in the newer consoles and the 8068 is king of the vintage hill........oh if only I had 250 large burning a hole in my pocket........ :D
     
  10. RecorderMan

    RecorderMan Distinguished Member

    My Four favorite Neve boards are/were the Monserate 8078 @ A&M studio 'A'; The 8028 @ SoundCity - Van Nuys,Ca - (which by the way is the only Vintage Neve on the planet that is at the same exacy location that it was commissioned for....Sound City's 8028 was the first Neve in LA!); and my Alma Matter...the 8048 @ the Village Recorder, Studio 'A'...although this board comes from Chicago...the real Vintage Neve that was commissioned for the Village's Studio 'B' in '79 was a 8078 for the room that FleeetWood Mac built for 'Tusk'. It was sold by a short sighted management administration during the "SSL '80's"...and is now half of the great monster neve 8078 @ Cello (previously part of OceanWay).
    The best neve modules imo are the 1084's...Class 'A'. A 1084 is a 1073, with a selection of frequencies (as opposed to the single high freq) to choose from.
     

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