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Anyone Use A Phaser On Vocals ?

Discussion in 'Vocals' started by TomF, Mar 31, 2008.

  1. TomF

    TomF Guest

    Hi,

    I have a Female R&B vocalist in the studio, that say's she
    went to a studio that used an effect on her voice. She said
    it gave her voice a real dreamy effect. I haven't been able to
    hear anything she did but, she said she asked the studio
    and they said they used a phaser.
    I used a Phase shifter but never used it on vocals.

    Has anyone used a this type of effect on vocals?
    or is there a different type phaser used for vocals?


    Any info would be appreciated......

    Thanks
    Tom
     
  2. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    Yes, I've used just about anything you can think of on vocals.

    For a better effect on her vox I suggest chorus.
     
  3. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    When in doubt, try it, see how it sounds, but just don't overwrite the recording :)
     
  4. Chrous is no good.
    For reference you may check out "Killer Queen" by Queen which uses a similar vocal effect on the line "just like a laser beam".
    Or, try Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Gimme Two Steps" which sounds like what you describe.
     
  5. gajazzpiano

    gajazzpiano Guest

    Well, in R&B it is probably a chorus maybe with some 'spacial' effects added- a delay and some slight 'detuning.'
     
  6. mwacoustic

    mwacoustic Guest

    Is that the shortened version of the song? :lol:
     
  7. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  8. pr0gr4m

    pr0gr4m Well-Known Member

    What, she doesn't have a tape, CD or MP3 of anything that was recorded at that other studio? :roll:

    Phaser is cool, but it REALLY depends on the phaser. They've all got a different sound quality. I've got an old guitar pedal that I like on some things but it sounds completely different from the basic phaser plug in on my DAW.

    How are you applying the phaser? Are you just running the main vocal track through a phaser? What sort of mix (dry/wet) are you setting it to?
     
  9. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    100% wet, and running through 2 chained together. Just to give it that phased phaser pheel.

    On an insert as well, who needs the original signal anyway?
     
  10. pmolsonmus

    pmolsonmus Well-Known Member

    I think it's been compressed! with a 2:3 ratio:lol:
     
  11. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    filmmusic2008: "Chrous is no good"

    No, indeed it's not. Frankly it's useless. Chorus isn't too bad though.
     
  12. moonbaby

    moonbaby Mmmmmm Well-Known Member

    HEY! Guys, let's cut filmmusic a little slack here...
    "Gimme TWO Steps" is Skynyrds' DANCE version of that song :cool:
    And the effect on the Queen song is FLANGING, which is technically ( and sonically) slightly different than phasing and chorusing. "Phasing" is the result of modulating a filter-some use a bandpass, others an allpass- to achieve the comb-filtering effect. "Flanging" (as well as chorusing) uses actual time delays that are modulated. And we all know about how that got it's name,now, don't we...?
     
  13. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    Someone was ringing a very odd bell, but couldn't use the C button on his typewriter?
     
  14. RobXmas

    RobXmas Guest

    That is so true!
    I've tried it before and I've found that its more pleasing to the ears when it is more suddle of an effect. OR you could make her pull a Freddy Mercury and over dub the same vocal parts a few times to get a nice natural phase sound. That way, it sounds cool, and your musician gets a ton more credit for being able to pull it off.
     
  15. drumist69

    drumist69 Active Member

    I did this on a female singer once and it sounded pretty cool. I think I had doubled her vocal, and ran one with some eq and comp, and the other I put a different eq on and a phaser. Then I used mainly the "clean" vocal, but pulled up the phaser track in places to gives certain lines a little spacey feel.
     
  16. hackenslash

    hackenslash Active Member

    Chorus is a great effect for vocals, as long as, like all other effects. I usually prefer to use pitch shift to generate a more subtle chorus. Use any decent pitch shift algorithm and put it on a send. Then, using the fine tune control, detune by a couple or three cents and feed in gently. Much cleaner than a full-on chorus.

    It's also possible that they used an exciter. Try a few things and see what she says.
     

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