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Assistance With CI 1 + SHURE SM58

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Krim00, Aug 21, 2014.

  1. Krim00

    Krim00 Active Member

    Thanks in advance for any assistance, it is very much appreciated.

    So, long story short:

    I just bought a Steinberg CI 1 USB Audio Interface, a SHURE SM58, and a Logitech HD Pro C920 Webcam.

    My goal: To create youtube video's. I want to record myself for certain parts of the video with the webcam, but I want my SHURE SM58 to be the microphone that picks up the audio while my webcam does the video. Also, I want to be able to use my SHURE SM58 to talk to someone live on skype.


    What I've done so far: I've installed both of the Steinberg CI 1 CD's, I've plugged the CI 1 into my computer via a USB cable, and I've plugged my SHURE SM58 into my CI 1 interface in either the 2/R or the 1/L slots on the rear panel. The Peak light hasn't come on next to Input 1 and 2, and I really have no idea where to go from here.


    If you know how to accomplish what I would like to do, I shall be eternally grateful if you share the knowledge :)

    Please be detailed though, as I really am new to this stuff!

    Thanks :)
     
  2. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    I don't really know the Steinberg CI, but the first thing I'd do is to read the manual and follow the steps to make sure your setup is ok.
    You need to know that once the setup is ok, you need a video recording software. I'm sure there's one included in the webcam package, but it needs to be able to ajust the video and audio source independently (to choose the the Steingberg)

    Other thing you can do is to go in the control panel and sound and ajust the recording options to choose the Steingberg..
     
  3. Krim00

    Krim00 Active Member

    I have Sony Vegas for video and audio editting.

    I know how to record both audio and video with my webcam, but I don't want the audio from the webcam, I want to replace that audio with audio from my SHURE SM58. I think I figured that part out though. I opened Wavelab LE 8 that was software that came with my CI 1 and did a recording there. So I guess I would start recording there, then I would fire up my video, and then I would sync up the video and audio tracks with Sony Vegas.

    The only part I can't figure out now is how to setup this microphone for talking live on skype, I don't see the microphone as an option when I look at my audio devices in skype.

    Any idea's? :)

    Thanks!
     
  4. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    You won't see the actual mic as an option to choose from in skype. You're looking for your Steinberg I/O.

    Vegas is probably the most user-friendly and best video editing platform for PC's. I use it frequently for promo vids and stuff.
     
  5. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    Yet another very unsettling post from RemyRad. Sorry Remy, you don't have to go to Mars to buy beer, I'm sure we can find some in a mile radius ;)

    All the OP wants to do is to record a video with a webcam and grab the audio from another source.
    Get into the settings of your software and if the option isn't there find another one that does it.
     
  6. paulears

    paulears Well-Known Member

    Are you sure you can split your webcams audio? One of my pcs here will simply not let me feed video and audio from my Jvc recorder into say, adobe premiere and allow me to select an audio interface and use that at the same time. I have to choose one or the other. You say you want to do YouTube videos, I'm confused why you picked a nasty webcam yet presumably want decent image quality and editing, hence Vegas? Vegas is a great editor, but not like my premiere really designed for live recording, it's designed to bring in data files for you to edit.

    You're also going to look a bit strange talking into a 58 near your lips, not a very common combination for videos?

    So, my questions are.
    What software are you trying to use to record two data streams at the same time? As in picture from webcam and sound from the Steinberg interface?

    Have you tried recording using the Steinberg interface into an audio program, to check it works properly?

    My guess is simply that you have multiple problems, and possibly the wrong kind of software.

    Neither my video editor or audio recording pcs offer the facility to record video from USB and audio from a different USB input at the same time. The drop down boxes let me select an input, but not two!

    Workflow needs a rethink. I'd probably do this kind of thing with a proper camera. Webcams are horrible things, and very often not even full frame rate. I'd record sound and picture separately and sync them in the editor.

    Remy made her point in her usual way, but I think most of us would agree about using cracked software. I'm paying adobe many pounds each month to use their products, perhaps even more than they are worth, but I do it. We are therefore frosty dealing with people who stole it for free. I do understand why you do it, as I work with students a lot, but most people on this forum pay our mortgages from our work, so perhaps you can understand why you are getting a rough ride.
     
  7. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    "Remy made her point in her usual way, but I think most of us would agree about using cracked software. I'm paying adobe many pounds each month to use their products, perhaps even more than they are worth, but I do it. We are therefore frosty dealing with people who stole it for free. I do understand why you do it, as I work with students a lot, but most people on this forum pay our mortgages from our work, so perhaps you can understand why you are getting a rough ride. '

    Remy made an accusation based on absolutely nothing. Exactly where did the OP say he was using cracked software of any kind? Remy said he was, which was incredibly and unfairly assumptive and accusatory.
    What she is saying should not be taken as fact, nor should her assumptions be referred to as the gospel truth in any posts afterwards.

    The OP never said anything - nor was there any evidence of any kind in the OP's posts - that would give any indication that cracked software of any kind was in use.

    And so what if he spent $600 on software? We've all spent far more on various programs over the years and no one ever assumed that we were using cracked versions ...

    Sony Vegas is a popular consumer editing platform that works very well - and my suspicion as to why the OP is using it is because - unlike Adobe Premier or Final Cut - it's very easy to use and far more productive in far less time, if you are new to video editing. Also, FWIW, Sony Vegas's BASIC version - Movie Maker - is $50... not $600. Again, Remy made an assumption that the OP was using a full blown Pro Suite version of the platform.

    C'mon gang... be smarter than this.

    d/
     
  8. paulears

    paulears Well-Known Member

    Oops - my apologies. That will teach me to believe what I read.

    I've just been experimenting on this macbook, and I cannot use an external audio device and a cheap webcam I have laying around here at the same time on anything on this computer - so I certainly can't record from a webcam and get the audio from a separate source.
     
  9. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Well-Known Member

    Whoops. Sorry my bad.

    Yeah, Movie Maker $50 but he said Vegas. We've all spent a lot for software, for sure. But I don't need to be paying Adobe monthly? My older software is paid for and works just fine. My upgraded Vegas was worth the cost. Which I really wouldn't have needed if I hadn't gone Windows 8 on the new laptop purchase, last year. So I'm really not gleaning any operational advantages to that 64-bit upgrade, thank you very much.

    Yeah I apologize for making accusations. As I had indicated, the OP could be an expert video editor. And thus, might not have their abilities fully dug in with an overabundance of high-end gear like so many of us have very heavily invested in? I've got well over $150,000 invested in equipment, alone. And really, he might not be an audio person? Much like many of the video editors I worked with over at NBC-TV whose audio skills, were pretty underwhelming when it came to understanding anything about audio.

    So again my Heartfelt apologies. I've been under a great deal of stress in the past few weeks with unbelievable frustrations and angst. I'm sitting here in Austin, Texas, with my finger up my ass for the past 3+ weeks as the CROWmobile.com truck has been sitting at a transmission shop since I blew my clutch on arrival here in Austin. And the brand-new diesel generator I purchased to power it up, blew up on the break-in time. So I can do nothing until I return this 300 pound plus diesel generator. So my frustrations, anxiety, anger, obviously came through on that particular late-night response. And yeah... I did run out of my prescription meds. I've been hamstrung.

    Ouch!
     
  10. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    Remy you make me think of one very popular Quebec pop signer I worked with. She started to sing at a very young age and had a very good carrier. She went in france and travelled the world with StarMania and sold a ton of CDs. She was one of our big star (long before Celine Dion who also comes from Quebec) Things is, she never did anything else in her life and was blessed with a lot of gift, acknolegment and attention.
    Now a day, at 66yo, she still sings in big shows. Thing is man she is bitch and since she starts to have less good memory she always blame the musicians. I was playing 8 shows in 4 weeks to a nice Casino with her. Every night she would change the ending of 3-4 songs before the show and then didn't remember the changes when the song came... You come to a point you nearly hate her for it and then a couple of days later she calls and say she's sorry and thanks you for your great job !!! Man you feel cheap for hating her .. ;)

    Remy, you are full of knowledge and experience. I wish you find the way to write that in your posts and moderate the rest ..
    Btw, I wish you well and hope you resolve your current problems. Frustrations, anxiety and anger are no good for your health..
     
  11. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    Back to the original query...

    I really don't believe that you're going to do much better with the audio than the mic that is built into the camera. According to specs, it's a stereo mic, (likely a condenser as so many are) and is built to use for the camera.

    Before we go any further, what version of Vegas are you using?
     
  12. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    I hope you're right Donny. The spec doesn't say much : 2 stereo mics with noise reduction.
    What I fear is that usually the webcam mics are design to grab you from a far point in the room are sometime omnidirectionnal.
    I bet you would grab more room sound with it then with a mic near your mouth. if the room doesn't sound good.. it'll be bad.

    In any case it's worth comparing them ! ;)
     
  13. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    this may be true, PC, I don't know, as the specs aren't very detailed. I'm making an assumption that the built in mics are set as X-Y, but that's based on past experience with other cameras. It may indeed be omni.

    I have a few more options for him - which is why I asked him which version of Vegas he is using... there may be a way to use the 58... but I need to know which version of Vegas he has.

    Although, he may be long gone.
     
  14. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    Hope, he's not gone.. LOL.
     

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