Discussion in 'Microphones' started by johndoesmith, Jun 14, 2009.
Anybody own one? What are your thoughts? Applications?
I have the AT2020 it is a small diaphragm mic so it's a little sensitive to your speech and it is good if you don't have good room acoustics because it doesn't absorb much of the reverberation. Overall it's a pretty good microphone for $100 but remember it's how you use the mic not really the brand to get the sound you want
I have one. It sounds better than a comparable MXL 990 or whatever.
It has it's uses, but I wouldn't stick it in front of my KSM32.
I like it on acoustic guitar if it's placed with the right style of playing.
It's a noisy, grating, and rather annoying-sounding for most applications. I like it on electric guitar, but then again, I play speed punk. It sounds marginally better than most dynamic mics on acoustic instruments. It's sort of like a Danelectro guitar: has a unique sound that sucks for most things, but it can be made to work for certain applications.
I disagree. It's a lot better than the other budget mics out there. I can send you tracks tomorrow if you are interested.
I own one. It is not a very good mic. I'm sure B$hringer makes worse budget mics, but for the price, I doubt if there are any better condensers out there. I'm not saying it is any worse than any other mics in the price range, but it isn't great, that's for sure.
nah, dont be a dope dan. at2020 blows away any other $100 condensers.. and rivals most $200-300 ones too!
best bang for the buck, until you hit the bluebird
Dan, I think you have a bad one. These are NOT grating in the least. They are bright but a usable bright. Other than the Kel HM1 they are one of the best values around.
You must certainly have a bad one. Send it back. Even if its out of warranty they have been known to fix things without questions.
I suppose it's possible. It is just unbearable on vox. But that's what happens when you buy cheap stuff, eh?
well of course it doesnt compare with the likes of a c414, but it's only 10% of the price!
NO. It's when you try to use the wrong tool for the job. Stop blaming the tool, Dan.
I also own the 2020. Doesn't get a whole lot of use, but that's b/c I have better options now like the 414, Bluebird, and some nice pencil condensers.
I do pull it out when I want to mic a hihat, or as an extra vocal mic.
Like Dan said, it can be a little harsh and grating on some sources. I certainly wouldn't use it on a male vocalist that is nasally, really high, or such.
Moon's point exactly. But to say this is a bad mic simply because it wont do something its not designed for is silly.
Yes, it is cheap. No, it is not a universal use tool. Yes, it does some things really well. I use one as a room mic for the drums in conjunction with the U87. Do I NEED it. no, but it adds a little 'air' that is quite controllable so in this application it works well and leaves me with lots of other mics for other sources. Is it worth the price for this? Yes. If you like a bright hit on toms then this mic will do that and in this case its edgy mids and low mids actually make a good drum a little better in a mix. Another application it works on is a cheap acoustic guitar in a heavy strumming style. It has just enough distortion in its sound to give something like this some texture. Its not bad as a gang vocal mic for a couple of extra background voices. Its bright enough to be articulate off the mic and its anomolies dont show up until you're right on the capsule.
There are other mics that are as good as this one at this price. There are very very few manufacturers that build them as close in tolerances as Audio-Technica. One does actually sound like another for the most part. Something that a majority of the builders in this price range will never get right.
This is exactly what I was getting at. Not good for NORMAL applications. Works alright as secondary mic and can be made to work as a primary in certain situations.
Sheesh, I guess you woke up on the wrong side of the bed today. I never said it was useless and I wanted to throw it away. But saying that people should go out and buy a AT2020 and expect it to perform like a $500+ condenser is like telling someone to go buy an Epiphone because it's a really nice guitar and will be on par with a real Gibson. That is all I'm getting at.
Some of the nice Epiphones I've heard do sound on par with a real Gibson.
This is very true and no one has said that the 2020 is a $500 condenser in performance. Theres something about your statement about NORMAL applications that doesnt quite sit. Backing vocals is a NORMAL application. Room mic is a NORMAL application. Acoustic guitar mic is a NORMAL application. I could go on.....and I might.
Just because this mic isn't the be-all-end-all for certain types of vocals or maybe even one that doesnt suit your guitar application doesnt mean its not a good tool. While I'm not here to tout nor to shill for AT mics, I have enough of them and have used a large number of their models to say that if yours doesnt sound at LEAST decent, theres something wrong with it. So until you really know that this is the case, its unfair to deride them as simply awful just because you may have gotten a lemon. There are a huge majority of the users of this mic that are pleased with the results and there are those users who have the experience and the mic locker to indicate that it isnt simply newbie opinons flying around.
So, in the under a hundred category of mics, condensers, this one is one of the top buys.
Quite possibly. Buying condensers under $100 isn't a habit of mine. But seriously, would any of you recommend getting this mic as opposed to saving up for a better condenser? Sure, I could see recommending this mic to someone who already has an extensive mic collection and wants something with a unique sound, but the majority of people considering this mic are wanting to get a good condenser mic for around $100. I think it's only nice to let them know the limitiations of the piece of gear they are considering.
Some people are just starting out and want something decent for as low a price as they can afford and some of those same people wont be recording a year from now because they dont get it or it isnt their cup of tea. Saving for something better isnt in their needs of the moment, but I will never recommend a piece of crap that isnt going to be some sort of decent quality as well as a sound they can get started with. This mic fills that bill completely and it is the lowest condenser in quality you will ever hear me talking about as a general mic. The Kel's are a special mic and I wouldnt recommend them for a lot of reasons except to someone looking for that special sound. The 2020 is quite another thing entirely and I will always recommend it over any Nady. MXL, B825r28ger or other piece of crap you see people buying so much of simply because they are uninformed.
BTW Dan, whats in your mic cabinet?
I own U87, AT 4033, Oktava 319, SP B3, ADK A51's, 3Zigma Systems, Bag 'O Shures, Kell Audio HM1, Audix kit, ATM25, 6100, 610, AT2020, Crown PZM,others....I have owned...AT4050, Sm81's, MD409,MD421, MD441, Beyer 201, Beyer 422, Soundelux U97, Beyer M500 ribbon,Neumann KM84(sob!!) and have put up many more in studio settings( U67's and even one U47!!!) as well as having access on a rental basis for whatever else I might need....which isnt much at this point....
My point is, I hear and use a lot of mics on a lot of different styles and while I agree that someone who is serious about this business and serious about making a great sound needs mics of good or better quality, they all have to start somewhere and I'd personally rather see them with an AT mic than any of the other cheap ones out there due to, as I have said, build quality + sound quality for the dollar.
Your posts tend to condem something that you have a personal distatse for and while it is true for you, yours is one of the only bad experiences I have heard of in all my years of touting recording practices and gear on the net. I'd rather not scare someone into buying a B*^&$%#^ger or a Nady over something that will atleast get them going in the right direction towards quality gear in the future.
Saying the AT2020 works for certian applications is not condeming it.
I believe I said that AT2020 is better than anything B$hringer makes.
I consider the AT2020 mic a decent mic for certain applications; in no way, shape, or form do I consider it a GOOD mic. Now, it might just provide that right sound for micing ____ source, and in that case, it would be good for the application.
BTW. Whats in your mic locker Dan?
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