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Avid Eleven (Pro Tools)

Discussion in 'Pro Tools' started by Davedog, Jan 16, 2011.

  1. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Anyone using this interface? It sounds killer. Wonder if its all it seems???
     
  2. robbiusa

    robbiusa Active Member

    I've been using mine for over a year and I really like it for what it does (esp. the Plexi and AC30 models), but then, I don't have the ears that you pros do. Takes some tweaking, but I like it better than the Line6/Digitech/Boss/Vox stuff. It's more organic sounding (the dirt doesn't get over compressed sounding or fizzy?), cleans up nicely with the volume on the guitar. I might prefer real amps if I were gigging again, but for just banging around the basement and hanging with the old gang every once in a while, I'd never be able to justify the expense of 8 more amps (to go with the 2 already there) lining the walls (hard enough justifying the dozen guitars to my wife).

    When you get a chance, you should try it out and give it a thumbs up/down.

    Some new amp models/cabs (including a bass amp/cab), effects, and a channel strip along with speaker break-up are coming in March according to Avid.
     
  3. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Like all this plug-in crap, its very usable and easy to get it all happening ITB. That's the coolest thing about it all. If you are getting PT, it would be great to have.Using this live is the step in the right direction. Sounds great.

    Overview



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    Eleven is a powerful TDM/RTAS/AudioSuite plug-in that sets a new standard for recording and live guitar amp sound. Eleven allows you to achieve highly realistic, jaw-dropping guitar tones based on the world’s most coveted vintage and modern tube amps, speaker cabinets, and mics — all right in your Pro Tools or VENUE rig.

    Developed using an innovative new amp modeling technique, Eleven gives you instant access to an amazing collection of sought-after sounds based on classic Fender®, VOX®, Marshall®, Mesa/Boogie®, and Soldano amplifiers.* Simply call up a preset to immediately re-create a hit-making guitar tone, or design your own signature sound by mixing and matching amps, speaker cabinets, and mic models — all captured at their best in a world-class studio.

     
  4. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    I'm looking at the rack not just the plug.
     
  5. robbiusa

    robbiusa Active Member

    Yes, I have the rack and not the plug. I know it's all market speak, but check out some of Sean Halley's videos. I've found the True-Z input settings to be really useful. Info from their blog is here: The Truth About True-Z - Inside Out (it may be all in the marketing, but it seems to work).

    Here's the announcement for the firmware update I mentioned earlier.

    The Eleven Rack Expansion Pack provides more guitar amp emulations, new vocal and bass workflows, and effects for the Eleven Rack system. New features and enhancements include the following:
    New amp emulations:
    Blue Line Bass (based on the 1969 Ampeg SVT* head)
    J45 (based on the 1965 Marshall JTM45* head)
    Black SR (based on the 1965 Fender Super Reverb* combo amp)
    MS-30 (based on the 1993 Matchless D/C-30* combo amp)
    Plexiglas Vari (based on the 1967 Marshall Super Lead "Plexi"* head with Variac modification)
    Plexiglas 50W (based on the 1968 Marshall Super Lead 50W* head)
    RB-01b (based on the Bogner Ecstasy 101B* head)
    Custom Modern Clean Amp
    Custom Modern Super Overdrive
    Custom Modern 800
    Custom Vintage Clean
    Custom Vintage Overdrive
    Custom Bass

    New speaker cabinet emulations:
    8x10 Blue Line (based on an Ampeg SVT* 8x10 with "towel bar")
    4x10 Black SR (based on a Fender Super Reverb* 4x10 with CTS Alnico* speakers)
    4x12 Green 20W (based on a Marshall* 4x12 with Celestion Heritage G12M* speakers)
    4x12 65W (based on a Marshall* 4x12 with original issue Celestion G12-65* speakers)
    2x12 B30 (based on a Bogner* 2x12 with Celestion Vintage 30* speakers)
    2x12 Silver Cone (based on a Roland JC-120* 2x12)
    1x15 Open Back (based on an Ampeg Reverberocket* 1x15 with Jensen C15N* speaker)
    1x8 Custom

    New effects emulations:
    Parametric EQ (4-band)
    Dynamic (Stereo) Delay
    Dyn3 Compressor/Limiter
    Multi-Chorus
    Custom Distortion
    White Boost Overdrive (based on the Xotic RC Booster*)
    Speaker Breakup

    Will be an added purchase available March 22nd 2011, for $99 USD



    Yup they are charging for it. I've had a great time with it the way it is, but I will probably go for the expansion pack when it becomes available.
     
  6. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Thanks. I'll probably add that feature also. Also...The take I've been getting from a lot of folks is the 'feel'. It supposedly 'feels' like an amp. This has not been my experience with modelers of any kind other than the Johnson amp.....which broke every other day....
     
  7. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    You guys make me want to spend money.:mad: I'd have to hear it first hand to feel if it's right. A guy I work with just bought a Mesa Triple Rectifier. If you can get that feel out of an emulator, I would be sold. I have a Vox Tonelab and it's nice but I don't know if it feels right. I also have Guitar Rig 4 which can sound great but it doesn't have that feel either.
     
  8. robbiusa

    robbiusa Active Member

    Everyone has their own expectations and opinions when it comes to tone and feel, so I won't even try to suggest that the 11 will fit from that perspective. Try it with a couple of guitars that you are very familiar with. The worst that could happen is that you don't like it and think it's a piece of crap. I like my guitars and amps, and given a choice, I wouldn't be using a modeler regardless of how good it is. There is just something magical about your favorite guitar going straight to a (insert favorite amp here).

    I can say this about the 11 after having owned several of these amp sims including the Tonelab (formerly my favorite of these) and several Pods:
    Don't judge it by the presets. Pick an amp/amps that you are familiar with and set them up as you are used to. Play around with the True Z settings. Picking dynamics have an effect on the sound in the 11 so depending on how the amp is set up you can go from clean to dirty without changing any settings. Same if you use the volume and tone knobs on the guitar to control how much dynamics you get. Clean and dirty are relative, some amps are hard to get completely "clean" (think plexi), and some you have to push hard to get really "dirty" (twin). The amps in the 11 will react differently to different guitars depending on the pickups (SC or HB), woods (or whatever materials) and tuning of the guitar (dropped/alternate) (they actually optimized a lot of the different presets for strat-tele-lp style players, some obvious some not, eg. Black Hat = Slash so Les Paul with a medium output, Sweet Open G = Keith Richards/Tele single coil missing low E, etc.).

    At any rate, it fits the bill for what I need now. It's not perfect but sounds good and until I can afford to buy all the real amps and have the space to store them, it'll get me through and keep my wife from killing me.
     
  9. applespacebar

    applespacebar Active Member

    total function .. eleven lets you go anywhere you want to go...
     

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