back to basics.. which maximum mix master level?

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by Alécio Costa - Brazil, Feb 9, 2003.

  1. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    Hi friends! In early 90´s, referring to 44.1/48k/16 bit masters coming from DAT machines, SVHS ADATs and so, people urged mixing engineers to stay at o db at the louder passes. However, nobody had a real reliable clip counter.

    I have lost the number of how many times I received DAT tapes for my junior mastering with up to 64 clips at the left or right or even both channels.

    Now we are at 24 bits, 44.1 or maybe 96k/88.2k.
    So which is the recommended maximum mix master output we shall ask clients to do their stuff?
    I myself mix around -0.2db.

    Just to make a research ( evaluation) here I receive 60% of files at 16bit/44.1k audio CDs, 30% at 44.1k/48k/24 bits SD2 and 10% from Mini Disc or DAt tapes.
  2. Pez

    Pez Active Member

    -0.2 sounds good to me just to be on the safe side. I've been doing a lot of mine at -0.3 even.
  3. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    THANKS! Uncle Cedar? Bill? Michael?
  4. audiowkstation

    audiowkstation Active Member


    But my RMS hovers between -20 and -14 (depending on music) I NEVER allow the RMS to go above -10 unless I am dealing with test tones...not even on metal.

    On the 0.05dB, out of a 4 min file, only one or two waves will create the peak. Most of them are running -0.7, -0.8
  5. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    hey man, I do not have any gear on here formixing that has that deep accuracy read out!!!!
    DAT DA40mk2 has x.x, PT has x.x, only the maximum celing at the mastering stage of my multiband plugin let us control up to -o.01!!

    Most stuff I receive on here already comes with lots of clips!!!! in the opposite, come mixed quite low, like -6db, a loss of headroom!!

    I mix around -0.2 and master at -0.05
  6. audiowkstation

    audiowkstation Active Member

    Soundforge gives accurate statistics of your 2-bus.

    You like the compressor demo live last night?
  7. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    quite a show my brother!
    We only missed the pop corn!

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