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Beef up guitar with VST?

Discussion in 'Guitars' started by boonepeeler, Sep 27, 2008.

  1. boonepeeler

    boonepeeler Guest

    So Im brand new to the home recording world. Im playing though an older 12 channel mackie mixer into a tascam US-224 interface. I thought I was golden when someone showed me guitar rig 3 and all of its amp modeling capabilities, but turns out your guitar doesn't sound good when its plugged directly into your computer. I've got a sure SM58 to mic my guitar amp with, which is a Fender Champion with about a 10" speaker. The one pedal I own is some BS Peavy "transtube" multi-effects processor. Basically, I want a good, full guitar sound with what I have. Are there any VST applications that are made to make your guitar sound good while plugging directly into your computer, while not trying to model every cool amp there ever was and half assing it? Also, with my monitor headphones and what I have (I'm using Live), whats a good method for recording a mic'ed guitar while hearing yor guitar with VST effects and the rest of your recordings. THANK YOU.
  2. jordy

    jordy Active Member

    Aug 25, 2008
    Reedsville, PA
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    hey, i'm not a real big fan of going direct with guitar, but i have a possible solution for micing the amp and getting a full, beefy sound:
    record your same rythym parts (or whatever part you want to sound full, ((in my case, all of the choruses))
    like 4 seperate times on new tracks. each time you go to record the same part over again, adjust the Eq, maybe the gain, or mic placement a lil bit to get a slightly different sound for the next take.
    once you have four tracks of the same part recorded, maybe PAN them as follows: 75R, 75L, 100R, 100L.
    it should give you the sweet full, ...fat sound you're looking for.

    note: DON'T just copy and paste one track. you'll get better results if you actually record the same part different times.- it's the slight difference in each take that give it the beefy stereo sound.

    as far as VSTs....i don't know of any that can be really affective in making your guitar sound way bigger....maybe an exciter plugin?

    anyways, hope this helped.
  3. GeckoMusic

    GeckoMusic Guest

    Double tracking (or quad) like Jordy described is a great way to get a big sound, if you like the sound of your amp. You could try the line out of your amp, and use guitar rig as a cabinet sim. Or you could use a DI box and plug the balanced output into your recording interface XLR connection, and use Amplitude. Or get a multi effects pedal. Both Alesis and Digi Tech make versatile models, but they don't beat the real thing.
  4. BrianaW

    BrianaW Active Member

    Jan 10, 2008
    New York
    I own all of the major amp sims. I still think the original Amplitube sounds the best... even over Amplitube 2. And I'll sometimes use the Dominion plugin ( (Dead Link Removed)
  5. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Distinguished Member

    Dec 11, 2007
    Scotland, UK
    Try SUMO.

    Probably cause you more pain than gain but hey, it's meant to "beef up guitars, pads, synths" etc.
  6. BobRogers

    BobRogers Distinguished Member

    Apr 4, 2006
    Blacksburg, VA
    Seems to me that Jordy's post doesn't have anything to do with amp vs. sim. It's just about how to beef up a track regardless of how its recorded. And that is the real point.

    I've tried various Line 6 products and Amplitude for direct recording and I have some nice amps and mics for recording as well. If you are starting out I recommend the sims. It's a great baseline. You have to do a very good job with a live amp to beat a good sim. Might as well start out with reasonably high standards. All things being equal (which they never are) I prefer a live amp. But I use sims quite a bit.

    Once you have a good quality signal, mix and treatment means a lot. As Jody says, double or quadruple tracking will give a lot of beef (or a lot of mud if your playing is not accurate).
  7. jonyoung

    jonyoung Well-Known Member

    Dec 31, 2003

    Check out the Boogex and Tube Amp free plugins.
  8. hueseph

    hueseph Distinguished Member

    Oct 31, 2005
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Soi, you bypassed the Mackie when you plugged in right? I'm guessing that you can't get decent sound because you plugged your guitar into one of the line channels of the Mackie instead of the guitar input on the Tascam. If you wanted to go into the Mackie you'd need a DI but why bother when you have an instrument input in the Tascam?

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