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Beginner recording gear

Discussion in 'Recording' started by dylkow220, Sep 16, 2009.

  1. dylkow220

    dylkow220 Active Member

    Hello recording.org! I am a new member and hopefully one that will stay.

    I have been recording on and off for about 6 months now. I have crap equipment but I am ready to take it to the next level. I want to record my own music and probably record some music with my buddies.

    I've been using a MobilePre and tried connecting guitar straight into it and using Guitar Rig, but I get a really flat sound, no punch at all. I'm assuming it is because I don't have a pre-amp to give the signal the punch and tone that I'm expecting. I am trying to record anything from metal/hardcore to pop rock.

    So heres where I am at. I just purchased a Presonus Firebox on ebay. I plan on purchasing the Presonus Studio Channel for the tube pre-amp and the compressor. I am also buying a Shure SM57 to record my guitar as well as a Rode NT1A to record vocals. I am using Reaper right now but will be using Cubase LE4 when my firebox comes in. Any tips or suggestions? Am I going in the right direction here or did the GC guy fiddle with my brain?

    I want my recording to sound as professional as can be with the equipment that I have. The only thing that bums me out is that the studio channel has only 1 input so I couldnt really record my guitar with 2 mics unless I put it straigth through the Firebox. Is a quality recording still going to come out of this?

    Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks guys!

    P.S. If you want to hear the sound I am going for check out http://www.myspace.com/grandfinalerock
  2. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Save your money on the preamp and compressor. The Firebox comes with preamps and that cheapo unit won't be any better as far as quality goes. Any DAW you use should come with compressor plugs, hardware compressors are not recommended for newbies as you could destructively affect your recordings if you don't know how to properly use them. For your voice I am not so sure that I would recommend the NT1A, it has an accentuated high end and would not lend itself well to your singing style. I would recommend a dynamic mic instead. You could even use the SM57 with a pop filter if you wanted to really save some money (It is essentially the same as an SM58)
  3. dylkow220

    dylkow220 Active Member

    By cheapo unit are you suggesting the firebox or the StudioChannel?

    So if I don't spend money on the StudioChannel what should I spend money on? What type of vocal mic would you recommend for that style of music in the 200-300 dollar range?

    As you can probably tell there isnt very much depth to my guitar sound as well as the vocals. When compared to songs I hear that have been well recorded, they dont stick out as much.

    Plus wouldnt the Studiochannel help the vocals stick out and add warmth as well as keep the volume manageable?

    Thanks for the quick response.....and by the way that wasn't me singing hahaha, i couldnt sing half that good.
  4. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Oh you mean this model? http://images.miretail.com/products/optionLarge/PreSonus/598779jpg.jpg

    Without looking I thought you were referring to this: link removed

    Eh, I mean you can get it if you have the money. I don't think that at this point you need a dedicated preamp, but that's up to you. Adding more stuff to the mix means more opportunities for things to go bad. I wasn't referring to the FireBox as being cheapo, I refer it to many people and they are always %100 satisfied with the results they get. It's great for budget home recording.

    Well it's not horrible, the thing that stands out is the fizzyness. It's the same sound that my guitar tracks made before I got a FireBox :D

    I'm not sure what you mean by keep the volume managable, but since you mentioned that you were helped by GC's staff that makes sense. Sounds like a line they would give.

    Haha, I was going to say, you've got some pipes, I was going to ask you to teach me to scream because I want to learn. Whoever recorded the screams on the track On Wet Streets has an awesome voice :cool: I wish I could do that!
  5. dylkow220

    dylkow220 Active Member

    I'm gonna try and keep this in order

    Yes i was not referring to the TubePre or whatever that thing is, I bought that once and returned it immediately. So the firebox will give me a little more clarity then? I really want that punch out of my guitar.

    Any suggestions of vocal dynamic mics that I could purchase? It would be nice if it worked for rap too, since I have a friend I would like to record with some pretty sick beats. Would a software compressor really work just as well?

    And the person singing is my good friend Myke, he is definitely a sick screamer. Too bad we cant get a decent band goin, theres not much talent around here.

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