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Beginner To Recording. Help would be greatly appreciated.

Discussion in 'Recording' started by CodyFromCleveland, Jun 25, 2011.

  1. CodyFromCleveland

    CodyFromCleveland Active Member

    Whats up everybody? I been checking out this site for some months now and trying to improve my engineering skills but I feel as of now, i'm not improving anymore. I was just wondering if anyone could help me a little bit as of which direction to go in, on improving the quality of my hip hop songs.

    Equipment I Have:
    M-Audio Mobile Pre USB
    AT 2020
    CAD GXL2200
    Adobe Audition
    Dell Dimensions 2400
    Altec Lansing Speakers

    [Ps: I know I need new equipment haha, but at my age (17) its hard to find a job in my city (Cleveland, Ohio) But if you don't mind, telling me some equipment that I should purchase that's not too expensive. I have a $500 budget right now for studio equipment]

    Here is one of my latest songs I have recorded:
    YouTube - ‪CodyFromDha216 - Walmart Freestyle‬‏

    I've been recording my own music since 2007 and I haven't really had any help, except for youtube. Im in the process of catching up on my engineering terms. At the moment im one of them people that knows how to do it but doesn't know how to explain how I did it.
  2. Ripeart

    Ripeart Active Member

    The two most important things in "getting a better sound" is your listening environment and monitors. Get your mixing room acoustically treated and then worry about excellent monitors (speakers).
  3. CodyFromCleveland

    CodyFromCleveland Active Member

    @Ripeart So get my room acoustically treated should be my first objective?
  4. CodyFromCleveland

    CodyFromCleveland Active Member

    and then worry about all that other stuff? Alright thanks!
  5. Ripeart

    Ripeart Active Member

    Well environment first, then monitors. After that your a lot further than most home studios.

    You can send Auralex a diagram of your room using their printable form and they will freely send back what they calculate as what you need for panels, traps, etc. in the hopes that you will buy that stuff from them.

    It's a good start, and you can ask here about treating your space. There are many experts that will provide helpful info.

    Ninja edit: I'm not implying that you should buy Auralex products, just that they will do a free room analysis and provide recommendations for you.
  6. jimmys69

    jimmys69 Active Member

    How handy are you? Your best/inexpensive bet will be to build your own bass traps and absorption panels of rock wool or OC703.
  7. CodyFromCleveland

    CodyFromCleveland Active Member

    Pretty handy, how would I go about doing that? Like what all would I need?
  8. genius audio

    genius audio Active Member

    Bass traps for all!!!

    All walls are parellel from one another that creates massive reflections and standing waves. The back of your room should have an area that is no shallower than 12" that can be blocked off at least mostly. Creating bass traps is simple. You will be taking 1/4 masonite panels that are at least half the height of the wall. and 10 to 12" wide. Take the rock wool and glue to each side of the masonite panels. You want to make enough to cover the wall with them at an angle. See the inclosed image.

    attachment bass traps.jpg

    The traps should be suspended by wire or rope from your ceiling and from the floor. Make sure they don't touch the walls at all. You can either cover them with fabric or make a false wall out of fabric in front of the whole contraption. The idea is for the bass waves to travel to them and stop there and not return to your ears. Please get back to me if you have any questions.
  9. jimmys69

    jimmys69 Active Member

    I have not yet seen ^this^ bass trap design before. Do you have any test results for it?

    This is the method I used, minus the batting. The batting looks like crap, adds to cost, and does nothing to help absorption. The panels are very lightweight and portable. I made 10 for around $160 if I remember correctly. SPI insulation is the distributor of the rock wool I used. If they are not near you, I'm sure you can find another. Shipping of rock wool or OC703 is ridiculous. Home Depot will have everything else.

  10. genius audio

    genius audio Active Member

    data is in the ear of the beholder

    While making this reply I noticed that you were speaking of is the rigid insulation like 702. My design is for the floppy true rock wool. It needs the rigidity of the masonite. The masonite being suspended renovate and helps absorb energy that would otherwise be redirected. I see your system.and it does work well. My system does sound incredible and absolutely obliterated the low end reflections. It does require more space.

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