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Behringer 1832FX vs Mackie DFX12 ?

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Roflcopterrr, Nov 29, 2007.

  1. Roflcopterrr

    Roflcopterrr Guest

    Hello all, I need a mixer for under $270, and which one of these is better?
    The Behringer 1832FX or the Mackie DFX12?

    or suggest something else?
    (preferrably something that can control the DAW software mixer too?)

    Thanks!
     
  2. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Application?
     
  3. multoc

    multoc Active Member

    Neither, Mackie might sound good in theory but they're $*^t, I worked at a production facility and all we did was mackie repairs.......and behringer well obviously
     
  4. Roflcopterrr

    Roflcopterrr Guest

    Maybe like, Cubase or Sonar?
     
  5. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    And? What do you need the mixer for? Do you have a multiple input audio interface or do you plan on running this thing straight into your soundblaster card?
     
  6. Roflcopterrr

    Roflcopterrr Guest

    i'm actually thinking of just getting a multi-track recorder... i can record OUT from my computer, right? (guitar - computer - guitar rig software - to multitrack)
     
  7. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Ok. So where does Sonar fit into the picture? And, yes you can record out from your computer but why would you need to when you're already using some sort of interface to go into your computer? Why don't you just get one of those all in one recorders with a built in amp sim? That way there's no crack involved and you won't have anyone here breathing down your throat about why we have to pay higher prices because crackheads are stealing software. Did you read my signature at the bottom?
     
  8. Roflcopterrr

    Roflcopterrr Guest

    I am all confused :(
    Is a mixer at all useful if you're recording one or two instruments at a time, or is it only useful when you're having around 10 inputs at the same time?
     
  9. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Buy an interface with two inputs. You don't need a mixer. For what you plan on doing, look into a Line6 Toneport UX 2. Not the most robust piece of gear but for what I suspect you plan on doing it's good enough. It comes with a lite version of Ableton's Live. If that doesn't have enough of a track count for you, you can download Kristal Audio Engine free and legal. KAE supports VST effects and ASIO drivers. That's probably all you will need for a while. Do some reading. It doesn't have to be heavy reading just pick up a few magazines or check out homerecording.com for some basic advice.
     
  10. Roflcopterrr

    Roflcopterrr Guest

    How about a fostex mr-16?
     
  11. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Whatever turns your crank. I personally prefer to work in a graphical environment. It makes editing so much easier, but that's just me. If you're dead set on having a piece of hardware with faders buy whatever makes you happy. The fostex will do what you want it to do. No doubt about that. You can't really use it with Cubase or any other software. At least not without bouncing files to wav on your computer and then reassembling them in whatever software.
     
  12. Roflcopterrr

    Roflcopterrr Guest

    Is there anything that will work w/ Cubase?

    Behringer BCF2000?
     
  13. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Sure. That'll........work. What version of Cubase?
     
  14. Roflcopterrr

    Roflcopterrr Guest

    Can Alesis Multimix Firewire's control the faders in Cubase?
     
  15. Roflcopterrr

    Roflcopterrr Guest

    OK.. Re-do..

    Is a mixer REQUIRED for multitracking vocals / guitar? Or can I just get the mbox and plug it into my computer and record into pro-tools from there?
     
  16. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Aha! There's an idea!
     
  17. Roflcopterrr

    Roflcopterrr Guest

    Well, there's that.. But should I use a mixer? Maybe for more inputs?
    I mean, the mbox has only 2 line ins - right?
     
  18. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    The number of inputs to your DAW is entirely dependent on how many inputs your interface has. You could have a 64 channel mixer but if your interface only supports two channels of simultaneous recording, you will end up mixing all those 64 channels down to two.

    Usefulness of a mixer when it comes to a Digital Audio Workstation is dependent on:

    1: the number of inputs you have on your audio interface.

    2: whether or not the mixer is also a control surface.

    There are interface/control surfaces out there but they are not cheap. On the very low end is the Behr..... products. On the mid level is the Digi 003. From there up you're looking into tens of thousands of dollars. With most software you can do any of the functions of a mixer "in the box".

    If you absolutely must have some sort of mixer, check out the Tascam Fireone. It doesn't look like a mixer but it functions like one in that it has a fader and knobs like you would expect on a mixer. From an observers stand point (I've never used one) the Fireone has employed the most logical combination of functionality and affordability.

    That being said, if you can get over the idea of having a mixer, the Mbox comes with ProTools LE and a slough of plugins.
     
  19. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    On another thought, have you looked into the Mackie Onyx boards with the firewire option? You won't get a control surface but you will get some nice preamps and as many simutaneous inputs as there are channels on the board. Also they come with Tracktion which is a great piece of software IMHO.
     
  20. Roflcopterrr

    Roflcopterrr Guest

    Hmm... Would it be possible to use the Behringer BCR2000 for automation in Cubase.. ?
     

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