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Behringer V-AMP LX1200H guitar head....very useful.

Discussion in 'Guitars' started by killersoundz, Apr 7, 2005.

  1. killersoundz

    killersoundz Guest

    Alright, I don't intend on starting a Behringer arguement post here, but whatever. I own the Behringer V-Amp guitar head that just recently came out. At $200, it is insanely priced. In all honesty, if it were priced at $600 I still would've been interested in buying it.

    First let me talk about the physical quality. This thing weighs so much, it's built like a tank. I really wish it didn't weight as much as it does, but oh well. It has something like 16 LED's around each knob, so as you turn the knobs the led's just light up and thats how you save presets.

    It puts out 120w mono (but only to 4 ohms) or 60w to two channels, in STEREO at 8 ohms. The only weird thing about it is how the master volume control knob is weighted. Most masters on almost everything will max out half way or maybe 3/4, on this head , the real power doesnt even really start pushing until about 3/4. Apparently all of behringers master's are weighted this way, a friend says a eurodesk mixer he used is similar. I don't know, its just not something i'm used to.

    Ok, getting to recording with this thing, it has a full range of inputs and outputs. The coolest thing with this head, is you can set it up so that you can monitor distorted guitar, but at the same time through other outputs, you can record a clean sound. I know for myself, this is awesome. Getting a good distortion sound is often a difficult task. You can mic up cabs, do whatever you want, but it's always hard to get a distortion sound that fits. With something like this I can record and then mess around with different types of distortion, cool stuff.

    Thats about it, it's quite a good peice of equipment.
     
  2. Boltino

    Boltino Guest

    What I really love about Behringer is their ingenuity and originality . . . . . oh wait . . . nevermind :cool:
     
  3. SUPERMAN

    SUPERMAN Guest

    Could you post a sound sample?

    Im looking for a new recording amp and I would like to hear it. $200 is very cheap.
     
  4. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    It's a joke, right? A solid state digital modeling amp that sounds good? Yeah right ... when monkeys fly out of my ass ... I don't care if it sells for 25 cents ... it's a waste of money.

    Get a HI WATT 1/2 stack ... you'll never look back.
     
  5. killersoundz

    killersoundz Guest

    Nah, you guys are wrong. I think it's really all about the sound you're going for. For today's sounding metal stuff, I can pull off the perfect tone with just this guitar head going directly to my computer. For just maybe a general rock tone or, see, like I said, it depends on the band. If i'm recording a band where I don't feel like something like that would cut it for the guitar tone then i'll get a hold of a marshall stack and a SM57, but thats only if I think thats what I want.
     
  6. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    You picked the wrong forum for this post buddy. :mrgreen:
    Try budget gear or maybe the behringer web-chat site.
    Your not gonna get the respect you might deserve if you were to have never posted this post.
     
  7. killersoundz

    killersoundz Guest

    ehhhhhhh i dont care i enjoy arguing with you badasses
     
  8. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    Well. Welcome to recording.org :D
     
  9. PCM

    PCM Guest

    seriously though, I haven't heard this behrenger thing, and I'm sure it's probably not great, but there is some real gear snobbery around here. Now, I do understand Kurt's position, and I've been visiting these forums for a LOOOONG time and respect Kurt's reviews very much (I changed my name recently by the way...that's why so few posts), but no one gives a $*^t what was used to make the record. It's the end result that people judge. I just cut a track coming out for international release where I banged on pots and pans with drum sticks for same crazy panned effects.

    Not saying that this Behrenger thing is amazing. Just saying that if it works for you, then use it. All tracks end up in the same final format, and no one can "analyze" them post master to see what gear you used.

    I've heard terrible recordings done with top of the line GR, cransesong gear in great rooms and I've heard great ones done in a spare bedroom with a tascam 4 track and 4 sm58's.

    So if it works for you cool. There's no rule that says you need a halfstack and JCM head to get a good guitar sound. "good" means whatever you want it to mean.

    later....

    p.s. However...better gear is BETTER. I went through crappy gear until I finally sucked it up and upgraded my whole studio to UA, avalon, RME, BLUE gear...it DOES make a difference.
     
  10. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    I'll 2nd that remark. Even Marshall's IMO are over rated (some of them not all of them). But reguardless it goes without saying. If I bought anything worth keeping it probubaly was WWAAYY more than a couple hundred bucks. And once again Behringer's gear has only about $100 dollars worth of components in it. The rest is profit, sales, commison and marketing and when people say"free shipping"... NOTHING is free that goes in to the price markup also.
    Now they could mark it up to $500 or so to make it seem as though it is as good as some of the cheap crap. But they are trying to undercut ALL the other companies, and get the guys who are tight with their money.
    I say that because, even if you (not you personally) only make $22,000 a year (you will pay about a 1/3 in taxes and the rest is your's (or who ever's).
    Two or three years go by and now you have made over $66,000. But All some guy's want to throw down on gear is $99.99. :shock:
    Makes NO sense to me! But then again neither does the rest of the world. :?
     
  11. killersoundz

    killersoundz Guest

    Behringers gear has about $100 of components in it? Let me just say this guitar head weighs more then most guitar heads i've held, it has the presence of quality to it. I first believed they put weights in it but I took it apart and nope no weights. But wait.

    Alright, I'm not trying to sound smart but, ANY guitar head, what really costs money in it? I'm sure all of the components in ANY guitar head total maybe $100. Whats circuit boards, tubes, resistors, transistors, sheet metal, some wood, cost? I don't know but i'm just saying, you're paying for the name with ANY electronic more then the actual components, which is something I believe behringer is trying to defeat, but theres a lot of skeptics like you guys that won't accept it.

    I'm not dening that Marshall, etc etc, all those other brands kick ass, because of course they do, anyone could tell you that, but all I'm saying is you have to lighten up.

    I really think the real reason that the old timers to recording and audio hate Behringer is because they've spent so much money over the years on really nice equipment and then here comes a company that offers all of this great stuff for really cheap and they're pissed about it.
     
  12. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    OHH! That is so obnoxious ....


    Dude, I could give a rats ass about Behringer and all modeling amps in general. Your ignorance is your just punishment. What you don't know on the topic, could fill a book. That last comment only proves it! In about a year, I would love to hear back from you to see if that amp you have still works. I doubt that it will.

    Keep trying though ... someday you'll get it!
     
  13. killersoundz

    killersoundz Guest

    Eh. I can agree somewhat on that. My friend had a birthday party this weekend and my drums and guitar stuff is over there because we've been jamming. Half of the people that were there could play guitar and that Behringer head was on ALL day, and it was running pretty hot because I checked it every hour or so.

    Later on though, we stopped getting anything out of the half stack, and I was sure that the head blew, and I wasn't really disappointed in a way, I was actually curious myself if it would stand up to this. But after further inspection, someone just stepped on a cord going to the back of the cab, problem fixed and it still continued to be a workhorse, playing at full volume for a few more hours. I doubt it will stop working in a year, but if it does, I don't really care, i'll buy another one.
     
  14. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    I'll tell you what I'm pissed at ... I went out and bought a Line Sux "Fuxtone" for a wad of cash ...then dumped even more cash for the "Floorboard" ...

    Sounded like sh*t! To boot, the thing took a dump and stopped working after a few months. Cost a bundle to fix and when I sold it I lost my shirt. I didn't even get half what I paid for it (and I got a deal).

    I've heard the Behringer, it doesn't sound half as good as the "Line Sux" did. But still, my old blond Bassman with a Mesa Boogie V Twin in front of it, blows the doors off either one of those modeling pieces of C-R-A-P!

    I had an old HI WATT head ... traded some studio time for it ... was about $500 into it ... I went out and found a nice Marshall 4 12 cab for $300, used them for 2 years and sold the whole thing for $1150.

    My Bassman which I have had for five years now and I can sell it to the local music store (wholesale mind you) for more than I paid for it. You're never gonna do that with the Behringer .. yeah I'm really pissed off ..... NOT! :roll:
     
  15. killersoundz

    killersoundz Guest

    Line 6? Oh god dude. Don't even go there. I hate Line 6. I used a Line 6 Pod for many months because my friend let me borrow it. God that thing sucks. I hated every second of having to use that thing.

    I know modeling all probably sounds similar, but I personally think Behringers V-Amp modeling sounds better. You've gotten to "hear" Behringers modeling, but have you gotten to fiddle around with it? You can get some of the distortion to sound pretty full of tone and not just "chug" like all I got on a Line 6 Pod.
     
  16. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Oh so let's see ... do you think Behringer really did any of their own R&D on that amp? If you do, I have a bridge I would like to sell to you ... cheap!

    Who's design did they copy? Most likely "Line Sux".

    I would bet if you were to look and see what was going on in both amps, the Beringer would be a very close knock off of a Line Sux design with cheaper components .. I haven't even bothered to compare but I bet the Behinger has all the same features as a comparible "Line Sux" amp. Anyone else want to weigh in on this? I am weary of it .... It's waaaaaay too easy! It's like fighting the "Knight Who says Neeh"!
     
  17. killersoundz

    killersoundz Guest

    Yeah I'm quite aware of that. I don't doubt they copied the line 6 design, but I also know that my ears aren't complete liars. I'd sit around with the Line 6 pod for an hour trying to get a decent sounding distortion sound out of it but all i'd get is muddy chuggy sound.

    The one thing I really do hate is "cabinent modeling." Thats the dumbest thing, I don't know...just give me one good freakin distortion sound and a good clean sound and thats all I really need.
     
  18. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    Well,..............


    ............................. Ohhh forget it.

    :roll:
     
  19. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    You can't even get the tubes to re-tube a good amp. (A real amp) For the cost that the Behringer is.
     

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