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Best microphone for my budget and purposes?

Discussion in 'Microphones' started by HeyThereYou, Mar 15, 2009.

  1. HeyThereYou

    HeyThereYou Guest

    Hey, I recently decided to get some passable recording equipment, so I got a Focusrite saffire interface. Of course, it's completely useless without and equally passable microphone.

    I'm going to be recording some pop songs. I don't have a very smooth voice, but it's not really harsh either.

    I need to record piano, vocals, and acoustic guitar. The budget for this is around 300 I guess. I don't think I can go higher.

    I was looking at the Blue Bluebird and Studio Projects C1 among others.

    I would really appreciate suggestions. I'm new to all this.
  2. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Do you have any mics currently? or is this a first purchase?
  3. HeyThereYou

    HeyThereYou Guest

    It's my first mic that isn't horrible. And if I really needed to, I could borrow a friend's EV ND967 to make the budget work better. I was thinking I'd grab a used SM57 for like, 45 since everyone seems to love it, but I don't record anything with distortion really.
  4. iamfrobs

    iamfrobs Guest

    I've used the Bluebird on Acoustic guitar and Male tenor vocals. Pretty good, but I'm not sure of the versatility on other sources. That is what I would look for at this price range.

    Best thing to do is try them out and use your ears.

    Both SP and the Bluebird get good reviews for the most part.
  5. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    If you have any edge to your voice at all, neither the Bluebird nor the SP C1 will be a good match. Both provide a pretty significant high end sheen to them which, on scratchy or slightly edgy male voices becomes a little like an ice pick to the ear drums.

    That being said, if you have a voice without too much top end and you really know how to work the proximity effect, the Bluebird is a great choice. If you're more than a few inches away from the BB, it's bottom end sounds anemic. When you get up on it (with a good pop filter of course) it really comes alive.

    It works very well on acoustic guitar - especially placed about where the neck meets the body - about 6 inches back and aimed towards the body about half way between the sound hole and the beginning of the neck.

    Do yourself a huge favor - get this and the 57. The 57 isn't just for distorted stuff - it's a great vocal and instrument mic.

  6. HeyThereYou

    HeyThereYou Guest

    Hmm, well, I'll pick up the 57 for sure.

    I do have a somewhat high voice for singing generally, and I like to use falsetto too. It's a bit scratchy voice though.

    The most important thing though is to be able to record piano decently, the acoustic guitar is just for fleshing out. I guess I should have made that apparent in my first post, heh.
  7. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Don't you mean pick one up for "shure"

    Lol u c what I did thar?
  8. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    If you have a more edgy/higher voice - try the AT 4047. You can occassionally pick up a used one for close to your budget. Also, a Cascade Fathead may work well. I personally love my Beyer M160 on edgier male vocals. Use a pop filter or two though if you're using ribbon.

  9. HeyThereYou

    HeyThereYou Guest

    Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it.
  10. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    ADK Hamburg. end of rant.
  11. mrb1946

    mrb1946 Active Member

    Get a cheap large-diaphargm like the Audio-Technica AT2020 condenser for the acoustic and an sm57. SM57 will do everything, but if you want good acoustic guitar, put the SM57 at your neck (of the guitar i mean) and the condenser a couple feet from you and record. The AT2020 seems to be good for vocals to.
  12. iamfrobs

    iamfrobs Guest

    The AT2020 is a small-diaphragm condenser.
  13. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

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    It's in the name man. Small diaphragm is like a lav mic.
  14. iamfrobs

    iamfrobs Guest

    Well, small diaphragm is not just a lav mic, but the capsule on the AT2020 is definitely smaller than on my At3035, so it's small to me.

    It's all relative man.
  15. jg49

    jg49 Well-Known Member

    mine is definitely larger than yours...
  16. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Yeah well who uses it better? Lets see what kind of sounds you can spank out of your setup and we'll all join in for an orgy of harmonic copulation. Because it doesn't matter if you are hung like an SM57 or a Blue Bottle, if you can't use it then you might as well not have it. HAH!
  17. iamfrobs

    iamfrobs Guest

    Not surprising.... :cry:
  18. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    For the record - the diaphragm on the AT2020 is 16mm making it fall squarely in the Medium Diaphragm Condenser. SDCs are typically between 10-14mm (with a common median of 12.5mm). LDCs are typically >20mm. Other Side address condensers that are not LDCs at Neumann M50 and the AKG C2000 (IMO, the only mic in that series that's worth a damn).

    Lab mics aren't what are usually considered SDCs.

  19. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    He's right and his monkey has a gun.

    Keep constant eye contact while backing out of the room.

    You genius' need to work on your information gathering skills, so next time you'll know the difference between big, little, and like most of you, average.
  20. iamfrobs

    iamfrobs Guest

    Sorry Mr. Dog...
    (Goes and sits in corner)

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