best stage to clip

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by michjassir, Jul 25, 2008.

  1. michjassir

    michjassir Active Member

    Hello guys im mastering some house tracks and still cant get them to the level of the tracks their bringing me. I know this tracks are clipping but they still sound good. My question is: what place is the best stage to clip to attain more gain. Ive heard the da converters is the best place. Is this true or im offset. I got apogee 800s?
     
  2. Greener

    Greener Guest

    What?

    If you want more volume, turn the amp up.


    I can't think of a piece of digital gear that sounds good clipping...

    Even tubes only sound good as they bend into clipping... YOU DO NOT WANT DC SIGNAL IN YOUR SPEAKERS.

    At least I don't in mine.
     
  3. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    what kind of level are we talking about here?
     
  4. Massive Mastering

    Massive Mastering Well-Known Member

    A lot of mixes -- MOST mixes - don't have the 'loudness potential' as much of the ultra-crushed stuff off the shelf. Even the most experienced mastering engineer with the greatest gear on the planet is limited (no pun intended) by the mixes he's given.

    Best place to clip? If you clip the DA, you have to clip before it goes out. What's the rest of the chain and where is you line reference?
     
  5. Greener

    Greener Guest


    Could you explain a little please?

    Was I correct in my assumptions in my first post?
     
  6. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    Why would anyone record a house to begin with?
     
  7. Massive Mastering

    Massive Mastering Well-Known Member

    A lot of ME's clip to some extent. But *usually* it would be at the AD. To clip the DA, you're going to be ramming a signal out of the DAW on the way to the analog chain. In any case, it's all going to be dependent on the rest of the chain, how it's calibrated, etc., etc., etc.
     
  8. Greener

    Greener Guest

    Basically, gain structure.
     
  9. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Well-Known Member

    Sometimes, during a mix, I will lightly clip the Analog to Digital converters, if I'm mixing rather hot. But this is generally only on the drum transients. This kind of clipping provides a slightly harder crunch on the drums due to the heavy pair harmonics with symmetrical clipping.

    Sometimes, while mastering, I'll boost to clip drum transients. Certainly don't want that on other instruments. Clipping is not something you should do lightly. That is, to say, clipping isn't something to take lightly or, give. And even after clipping the drums, I'll frequently normalize to 99.6%. Put that in your plug-in & smoke it.

    Not a mastering engineer
    Ms. Remy Ann David
     

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