Big fat question...

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by Ben Godin, Nov 23, 2004.

  1. Ben Godin

    Ben Godin Active Member

    Ok now here is the deal, i was reading the reviews of the songs from this group project and it seems that the ones that recieved the best reviews were the ones whiich lacked a 20-450 section. This made the song very brittle and clean. Is that what clients want in a song? This brittle and clean and powerles music? Just listen to those which recieved high reviews and you'll see what i mean.
     
  2. Massive Mastering

    Massive Mastering Well-Known Member

    If you're referring to 4 & 5, I thought they had more and better lows than the others...
     
  3. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    Ben,
    It's more of a balance between everything. If pushing the lows means covering up other things, then it's not good. I think in this mix, pushing the low end to the point of some of the current things out there, covered up vital elements in the mix like the vocal and the snare. If you're not hearing the low end on these mixes, then it could possibly be a fault in your monitors. Don't take this personally or even literally. maybe it's not your taste. this isn't a competition as much as it's a learning experience. I learn from every single submition that I listen to.
     
  4. Ben Godin

    Ben Godin Active Member

    michael, i meant it seems that they lack mostly the 300hz range, not even quite the bassy bass range, they sound very dull and losless of the energy.
     
  5. Ammitsboel

    Ammitsboel Member

    I haven't heard the examples you are talking about, but reading your statements and the others seems like you may have a monitoring problem... but i could be wrong.

    Your comment about lack of 300hz is very specifick and only heard of when there is a direct problem either in the material or the monitors.

    What do you monitor on right now? B&W?

    Best Regards,
     
  6. splurge

    splurge Guest

    As all this refers to project 8, why the seperate thread ?.
     
  7. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    what do you mean B&W's? is that a dig at me? :)

    Ben, in this song, that range really gobbled up the vocal and the snare. I think that's why a lot of people laid off this range and didn't push it. to the benifit of the song.
     
  8. Massive Mastering

    Massive Mastering Well-Known Member

    Me too! :shock:

    No - He (Ben) noted on another thread that he's getting a pair of DM 602.5's.
     
  9. Ammitsboel

    Ammitsboel Member

    No, I'm just confused whether Ben is using B&W's or Mackies.
    B&W's is not "a major problem" in my world :)

    Best Regards
     
  10. Ben Godin

    Ben Godin Active Member

    Henrik i use both.
     
  11. Massive Mastering

    Massive Mastering Well-Known Member

    Ben - Looked at your site -

    You wound up with 802's instead?!?

    New? Used? Finish?

    PICTURES!!! PICTURES!!! :cool: :!: :eek:

    We'll expect to see your 824's on ebay anytime now... :D
     
  12. Ammitsboel

    Ammitsboel Member

    Yes, let's see some pictures of your room :cool:
     
  13. Massive Mastering

    Massive Mastering Well-Known Member

    Speaking of pictures, Henrik, that's gotta be the coolest lighting fixture I've ever seen. And is that the entire Gyraf collection on the right?
     
  14. Ammitsboel

    Ammitsboel Member

    Thanks very much John!!
    The lamp is designed by Verner Panton(DK-1969).
    The gyrafs is all custom made ones of their opto-varmu compressors and passive EQ.
    I'm soon going to be finished with a 4U analog transfer console that Jacob(gyraf) ingraved for me.

    And a new site update is on the way...

    Best Regards,
     

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