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Bluntly,.....i need help

Discussion in 'Recording' started by newclarity, Feb 17, 2004.

  1. newclarity

    newclarity Guest

    This could sound so much better,...what do i do? I run acid 4.0, i have attained the best signal i could get goin in to the computer, but im having trouble finding that punch. Any advice is awesome, i will try anything, thanks again.

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  2. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Well-Known Member

    Saying that "i have attained the best signal i could get goin in to the computer, but im having trouble finding that punch." is not enough info to suggest anything usefull. It takes much more than having the best signal to obtain desireable results. If you are unable to take the time to properly explain or define your problem and then ask a specific question, then you are not likely going to find anybody that can offer you any helpful or decent advice.
  3. QYD

    QYD Guest

    i agree with GAFF, however, from listening to your song...

    first off i dig it, however, for suggestions... i would work on the kick drum, i think that's where you are lacking some "punch". also the high end of the guitars is a little overpowering which i have found sounds great in creating the "chaos" effect of just like a mad dash, but it takes away from the decernable sounds.

    but don't screw it up just based on what i say, i think you have a great hardcore song there, and really if it where mine i probably would leave it.
  4. newclarity

    newclarity Guest

    sorry about the vague question, my main concern with the project is the overall clarity of the mix, along with the drums, i dont have separate tracks set up for each drum, so what u hear is what i have, i rean a 2:1 compression, and cut out some of the high end on the cymbals, other than that, what i am trying to do now is use a smaple kick drum sound that is exactly what i want, and going through and copying and pasting that, along with the snare for every beat,...it sounds pretty good, ...but the mix overall is what i am looking for comments on, and any tips about mixing the drums.

    Thanks again for the replies, and the compliments.
  5. jonyoung

    jonyoung Well-Known Member

    What are you using for monitors? I haven't had a chance to listen, but don't be afraid to spice up the kick drum loop if it's not cutting through. Typically, the "click" you'll hear people refer to with kick drum occurs around 3kHz, try adding a little, as well as maybe rolling off a little low end. What do you have for EQ?
  6. newclarity

    newclarity Guest

    I am using some pioneer stereo speakers...ehh..
    Its not a drum loop though, its a live drummer, so the eq i had going in i used a behringer eurorack 12 channel mixer.
  7. svart

    svart Active Member

    I listened to a song and I think you have potential here.

    are you using a compressor on the kick? if so, turn the attack time UP(longer) and allow the attack of the beater to go unaffected before the compressor kicks in. this will give more slap if that is what you are after. play with the attack and release settings to get it tighter. I would also think about doing the same with the bass. I would also suggest panning your two guitars slightly more center, i find my attention moving from left to right a little too much. other than that you are well on your way.

  8. newclarity

    newclarity Guest

    Thank you guys so much for the replies, very appreciated. Can anyone tell me any starting points for the compressor settings on the kick, and the bass? What do you usually start with?
    Thanks so much again!

  9. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Well-Known Member

    I start with my ears. First you need to know what the function and result of using attack, release, threshold and make up gain. If you already know that, then tweak those until you get something you like. Now, save or write done those settings. Tweak some more until you find something else you like. Repeat until you have several variations to choose from. Pick the one from the list that you like best then readjust your settings.

    Nobody knows your music and your music goals but you. And along with many other variables, nobody can give you any general or specific advice that has any real meaning without knowing all of those things. The settings that work for one person are not likely to work for another. Your much better off by skiping the easy way of just copying or doing what somebody else does and by doing the right thing by taking the time to learn what works and what doesn't, gain knowledge from that real world experience, and then applying what you learn to suit your own needs. And yes, it is very likely to take you a great deal of time to do and accomplish. This is a small part of the dues you pay to gain experience. The more you do it, the easier and faster it gets down the road.
  10. svart

    svart Active Member

    i second AudioGaff's opinion but try your attack at 30-50ms and release at 1 second and turn the attack down while listening. find the sweet spot for your attack. do the same with the release. this works well on my bass drum with 5:1 ratio.

    good luck!
  11. teleharmonic

    teleharmonic Guest

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