Boss BR-1600 mastering to CD issues

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by Darren1985, Nov 30, 2005.

  1. Darren1985

    Darren1985 Guest

    Hi, I'm new here so be gentle please!

    On my Boss BR-1600 digital workstation, I've created what sounds like a good recording, with appropriate EQ, reverb etc etc, mixing levels, which I then bounced down to two channels, followed by normalising that track. Going through the mastering process I selected one of the pre-set options which I felt was approriate, and created the master recording which I burnt to CD... however, having played the CD on a stand-alone player it sounds too quiet, too bassy and is generally messy (especially if i turn the volume up on the player), yet it seems fine on the actual workstation.

    Is there a process I've missed out or need to re-adress, bearing in mind I am fairly new at this! I'm not looking to create a masterpiece just yet, though it would be nice to at least get a decent result on CD, whereby I can improve on and tweak myself once I've got hold of the basics. Thanks for your time guys.
     
  2. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    Using a preset is your problem. If it doesn't sound right, then it's not right. If your mix sounds good, then you need to look at what you are doing in the mastering process that is making it sound bad. there are too many variables and too little info to give you any meaningfull info. more info please.
     
  3. Darren1985

    Darren1985 Guest

    Okay, I've made a list of the stages I go through on the BR-1600. Forgive my lack of terminology use please!

    01) After recording the song on various tracks, I place the fader levels to obtain a good mix.

    02) Master fader is set in the middle of the 'black' positon area.

    03) All individual tracks are bounced down to track '9/10'.

    04) Track '9/10' normalized.

    05) On the mastering section, I used the preset 'V01 Mix Down' - no other changes are made. The book mentions keeping the track and master fader level just below the point at where they peak on the display.

    06) I then record the mastered version, and burn to a CD.

    Like I mentioned in my first post, everthing seems fine when being played through the BR-1600, even the mastered track... though playing the CD sounds like it was recorded 'too low', with it being too 'messy' and lack of detail. If there's something specific you think would be worth me looking back on that I haven't mentioned, please say so and I'll attempt to be more exact! Again, sorry for the simplicity in termanology.
     
  4. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    Have you tried burning a CD of just the mix without the mastering stage to see what it sounds like? The level will be low, but does it sound the way you want?
     
  5. Brock

    Brock Guest

    BR-1600

    Darren, I"ve got the BR-864 and I know all the programing on these units are the same so try this!!!
    #1 Make sure your input level are up" check your input levels on your display when recording tracks.
    #2 Go into the mastering kit and adjust your levels, ie: comp, reverb. delay ect:. Make sure the ones you use are on.
    #3 And I would say the most importent, what about your monitors? I first had some cheap monitors and after I upgraded to some nicer monitors it made a world of differance on what I was sending to disk. Hope this helps.

    Brock
     
  6. Darren1985

    Darren1985 Guest

    Okay, I've just tried this and it sounds much closer to what I want, though like you anticipated it is a little too quiet and lacks the 'punch' or 'gloss' I get through listening to a mastered version through the BR-1600.
     
  7. Darren1985

    Darren1985 Guest

    Re: BR-1600

    Yep - I push the levels as far as I can go without clipping.

    Not quite sure what you mean here... I thought you adjust the comp, reverb etc etc in the mixing stage, since you can't alter indivdual tracks after mixdown?

    Oooh, now this is where you're gonna shoot me... I'm using a decent pair of headphones at the moment as I don't have any monitors... though I figured it's got to at least sound good though a pair of headphones too right?!

    Cheers guys.
     
  8. Darren1985

    Darren1985 Guest

    What's next guys?
     
  9. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    a good set of monitors?
     
  10. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

  11. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    maybe a treated room?
     
  12. Brock

    Brock Guest

    I"ve tried mixing through headphones and what I thought was a good mix really sucked once I put it on disk.So I bought a set of monitors I thought were good enough.WRONG!!!. There are some things you can skimp on but!!!, don"t skimp on monitors. You can"t mix what you can"t hear.
    Good luck,
    Brock.
     

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