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c414 vs. km184 for OH

Discussion in 'Pro Audio Equipment' started by dpianomn, Jan 20, 2006.

  1. dpianomn

    dpianomn Guest

    i've been upgrading EVERYTHING for an upcoming album, and currently have rode NT5's as overheads.

    i already own (1) c414, so i just wanted to get some opinions on whether i should i should pick up another c414 or spring for the 184's. mics will run through either an API 3124 or Focusrite Isa 428.

    thanks for the help! dave.
  2. dpianomn

    dpianomn Guest

    i should also add that the drummers playing on the album are EXCELLENT, and performance is definitely not an issue. it is rock, but not hard rock. thanks!
  3. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    Mar 8, 2004
    Fredericksburg, VA
    It's all a matter of preference of course, but I would personally stick with the Rodes for overheads.

    I've only had limited exposure to them, but to me they sound much nicer than the 184s (especially when compared on-axis, which you'll likely get most of your drum on or close to on-axis) and the 414s are nice for overheads, but I'm a little cold on them in general.

    Drop some cash on other cool stuff instead, like:
    (or get a drunk, high hooker and you might get all of the above for free too, then you could get):
    Acoustic treatments
    and other cool stuff.

    I'll be reviewing the Charter Oak line here in the very near future. I spoke with Mike Deming yesterday (founder/developer) and he stated that his end-address mics (the S600's) are particularly well suited for overhead, especially if you are looking for a slightly darker sounding mic (which the 414, Rode and 184s are not...)

    At this point, I am unsure which of his mics I'll be getting for review, but in any case, they might be worth a look - especially at that price.

    Check out Nathan's site - he's one of the bigger US dealers for Charter Oak. http://www.atlasproaudio.com

  4. mark_van_j

    mark_van_j Active Member

    Oct 28, 2005
    Maribor, Slovenia
    I would personally go for another 414. The mic is just so good not only on OH, but on almost everything else that you just HAVE to have 2 of them

    But if you want a reason, it's because I find the 184 is too specific, as opposed to a quality all rounder. I've used it on piano, but preffered the 414, used it on an amp, preffered the 57, yesterday I used it to mic the bottom side of a snare. I have to say it wasn't too bad.

    From what I gather, I think you don't really need it yet. You know you need it when you find yourself looking for it in the cabinet, when nothing else seems to work (not even the 57)
  5. Fede

    Fede Active Member

    Nov 3, 2004
    I like Røde NT5 as good as KM184 on overheads, and I like both of them better than AKG C414, which CAN sound great on overhead, but often doesn't. Mostly it's too harsh for me.

    Still, IMHO, none of these mics come close to KEL HM-1, so I would definately go for 2 of those - the best solution there is regardless of price (in most cases, and still IMHO) and you'll save a lot of money to spend on other cool stuff. Maybe a pair of omnis for ambience? The DPA 4090-series look interesting....
  6. audiosun

    audiosun Guest

    I think that the 414 is the best option if you want to get a natural sound,if you use a valve preamp like telefunken v72 or manley for exmple with the 414 tou can get a very nice and warm sound but if you use an API or Neve preamp you can get more hard sound.

  7. sushifish

    sushifish Guest

    I have both, I like the 184's.
  8. Graham_Waller

    Graham_Waller Active Member

    Jan 26, 2006
    Kent, UK
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    414's everytime for me on the overheads. I just find them to giv a great top end sybalance that I havent heard from other mic's in their price range. You could call that top end the harsh bit of the sound but to me when used in the right context can make a mix fantastic.
  9. dpianomn

    dpianomn Guest

    as it turns out, i think i'm going to pick up a pair of Royer 121's. mmmm tasty.

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