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Cant monitor MIDI through speakers-only "audio"

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Multani, Jul 19, 2005.

  1. Multani

    Multani Guest

    Hi, this is probably a "schoolboy" mistake and something that i just havent picked up yet (still new to all of this!).

    i have my primitve DAW setup like this-

    -MIDI OUT from keyboard to MIDI IN of Tascam Us-122 interface.
    -Line Out (L+R) from tascam into monitor amp.
    -USB from Tascam to computer USB port.

    when i record Audio everything is fine- i can both direct monitor with my amp speakers and use them for playback-

    however- when i record midi i get nothing from those speakers so i have to change the output to "microsoft GS Wavetable" and then it comes out of my computer speakers wich are quite shod to tell the truth......

    My theory is that becuase the signal is MIDI and digital, my speakers(using analog cables) cannot convert the info to audio- is that right? do i somehow have to get a MIDI OUT from the Tascam interface into my speakers amp?

    Thanks in advance for hwelp.
  2. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Distinguished Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    Silicon Valley
    MIDI contains NO AUDIO. MIDI is just digital control data that tells a device what note to play, how long to play it, ect... MIDI must be mapped to trigger something that has sounds such as a VST instrument, wavetable or an external MIDI sound module.
  3. Multani

    Multani Guest

    yea i can see this now- but the real question is- hwo can i monitor the MIDI through my speakers?

    i know it is possible as i have seen it done at other home studios?- do their monitors have MIDI in then?

    so how can i do this?
  4. Kev

    Kev Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2001

    midi is midi (midi is key comamands .... like a text file)

    audio is audio

    Speakers respond to an amplified audio signal ... some speakers are active(amped) and respond directly to the audio signal

    Midi keyboards or sound modules respond to midi signals and THEY MAKE the audio which is then directed to the speakers

    yes there are software sound modules (Soft Synths) which can work completely inside your DAW.

    midi channel assigned to Soft Synth assigned to audio channel and then output
  5. pr0gr4m

    pr0gr4m Distinguished Member

    Feb 9, 2005
    South Florida
    Home Page:
    Here's the way it works. Midi data must be sent to some sort of device to convert the midi data to audio data.

    You should also have the Midi out of the Tascam hooked up to the Midi in on the keyboard.

    When you play your keyboard it produces both audio and midi data. You are recording the midi data into your DAW.

    I'm assuming you want that recorded midi data to play back the sounds from your keyboard. If that is the case you need to route your recorded midi data to the midi out port and have it send on a specific midi channel. Then you need to set up your keyboard to receive midi on that channel.

    Now if you want your midi data to control a plug in or some other device, you need to route your recorded midi data to that plug in or device and make sure the plug-in or device is set up to receive that midi data.

    Brief midi crash course:

    Midi is control data. Midi data consists of things like note on and note off commands. When recorded you are recording what note was played when the note started, when it stopped. Other data can also recorded like the velocity of the note pitch bend or modulation. So a midi track is basically a bunch of data consisting of note on and note off data. You can send that data to any instrument that accepts midi data and have that instrument play back the notes you recorded.
  6. Kev

    Kev Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    I have carried this file on my web site for many years


    the original Roland Midi Basics booklet
  7. Multani

    Multani Guest

    thanks for that- i understand the separations of audio and midi now - kind of like analog/digital eh?

    anyway- lets get this straight-

    -If I am wanting to record and monitor midi using just the keyboard i need an extra midid cable than i already have(right now- there is one from keyboard out to tascam in- so i need also one from tascam out to keyboard)

    - or i can use just the one i have now but use also a soft synth/plug-in

    is gigastudio a soft synth?? it came bundled with the tascam and i havent used it yet......................
  8. McCheese

    McCheese Well-Known Member

    Mar 24, 2005
    You don't need another cord. You need to have the midi from the keyboard triggering something (softsynth) then you monitor the softsynth outputs.

    Keyboard --midi--> Softsynth ---audio---> Speakers
  9. Multani

    Multani Guest

    oh ok, thats cool.

    so what are some free "soft synths"?

    and is gigastudio a soft synth?

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