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CD production questions

Discussion in 'Studio Lounge' started by EricIndecisive, May 4, 2007.

  1. EricIndecisive

    EricIndecisive Active Member

    Hey guys, I was hoping (after re-recording my songs) to get a cd produced this summer. I don't live off of playing music or anything, so just something to get it out there would be cool. About production though, I have 2 questions:

    1 - Thermal printing: Is it worth it? I tried to find companies online that do it professionally but all I found was printer links and it looks like a lot of them go over $1k. The print that I want covers the full cd.

    (If it's not a reasonable amount of money then I won't bother)

    2 - The silver 'professional' cds. For some reason in the cd player in my car, a CD that I bought works perfectly, loads instantly, etc. Any other burned cd either takes a long time to load the song or does not work at all and after not being able to hear my new mix I probably almost ejected the airbags a couple of times. Is it the way the music is burned (I use itunes to burn it) or is it the bottom of the cd?

    I have a friend who designed a hardstock sleeve for the cd to go in, which will probably look nice, keep costs down, and make me feel less obligated to do all that booklet stuff.
  2. sheet

    sheet Well-Known Member

    You should have your CDs pressed with a glass master, as opposed to burning them. Commercial CDs are not burned. They are hot blobs of plastic, indented with a glass master (a negative of the CD's pitting).

    Not all players are compatible with burned discs, and the software used to burn them. Burned discs go to crap in time. So you could have angry customers.

    Your finished and demo CD should be a Red Book format CD. It has a table of contents. It does not require a computer/software to play. This is the problem with your burned CDs if you are not burning a Red Book. If you ARE burning a Red Book, then your player will not play your burned CDs.

    I have a minivan that will not play any CDs, Red Book or not, burned with Toast Titanium. It will however play a Red Book CD burned on an Alesis Masterlink.
  3. zemlin

    zemlin Well-Known Member

    How many copies are you looking for?
  4. EricIndecisive

    EricIndecisive Active Member

    hmm, not really sure, i would probably start off with about 100 or so, just so i could sell some to people i know and have cheap ones for sale if i can start playing places over the summer. I guess it shouldn't be too official though

    sheet: i really had no idea, that sounds complicated! i will look into it more. i still dont get what you mean 'indented with a glass master' but thats ok lol.
  5. sheet

    sheet Well-Known Member

    When store bought CDs are made, they are not made the same way that your CD Burner laser and CD dye work.

    The mastering engineer submits a disc, in Red Book format. The disc is imported into the duplication house's system. Error correction takes place, and a glass master of the CD is made. This glass master is a negative of the CD. It is pressed onto the hot plastic, and there you have it. Store bought CDs will not quit working over time the way that CD-Rs will, due to excessive playing, exposure to heat, sunlight, etc.
  6. EricIndecisive

    EricIndecisive Active Member

    oh, good to know! any idea how much it would cost for 100 cd duplication? i dont want anything too expensive since its just my own home recordings and not pro stuff. though quality matters, its the song that the people wanna hear (not saying my stuff is any good tho, haha)
  7. drumist69

    drumist69 Active Member

    Check this site to get a feel for pricing...


    They should be able to do what you need. Andy
  8. zemlin

    zemlin Well-Known Member

    You're not going to get "pressed" CDs for 100 copies - that generally happens at 1000. Duplication up to 1000 copies is on CDR disks.

    I do small batch duplication. I'd be happy to send you a quote and a sample - that would include a CD you could try in your car. My packaging options are limited - I do jewel cases. I don't shrinkwrap.

  9. EricIndecisive

    EricIndecisive Active Member

    thanks drumist, that seems like a really good website.

    zemlin - i might just have to hit you up later this summer, but no promises.

    in my recording though, i just realized that my songs are at a sample rate of 48000. will this mess up when its converted to 44.1?
  10. sheet

    sheet Well-Known Member

    It doesn't matter. When you are done, come back and we'll walk you through the next step.
  11. Copystars

    Copystars Guest

    CD production

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  12. Copystars

    Copystars Guest

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