CDR Quality & dupe speed - are we dealing with fact

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by anonymous, Aug 17, 2001.

  1. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    OK I have a Microboards 4 bay StartRec stand-alone (has a hard drive) CDR buner that does:

    1 x
    4 x
    8 x

    Speeds....

    So, speed? Duplicators? Errors? Checking them?

    I mean it's digital aint it?

    So it should be perfect!

    I do know one thing , media is of primary importance, I make sure I use the recomended CDR's for it.

    what you guys think? Experience's good? Bad?

    Quality & dupe speed - are we dealing with fact or superstition?

    Jules
     
  2. brad

    brad Guest

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  3. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    Exsqueeze me? What is DDP?
    :)
    Jules
    (on a Macintosh)

    So I can make masters on my computers burner,

    toast
    Jam
    Masterlist CD

    Then clone listening copies on the Microboards unit...

    Sounds cool. But what about Speed of dupe? Make any difference???

    :)

    Jules

    :c:
     
  4. audiowkstation

    audiowkstation Active Member

    Direct digital processing...no motors (other than hard drive) and no optics..

    DDP means you stay on the hard drive and not go to the optical unit...where vibration of the optical disc (due to rate of spin and inbalance) can cause distortions and error correction inadaquancies.

    Amongst other anomilies...clock... etc...
     
  5. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    So what my best bet for creating my own Red Book masters?
    I can ONLY submit them on CDR right? Or is there another way?
    I have a SCSI CDR burner (kinda old only 4 x speed) attached to my DAW rig.
    Are there specialist low jitter SCSI CDR burners?
    TIA
    Jules :c:
     
  6. brad

    brad Guest

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  7. brad

    brad Guest

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  8. audiowkstation

    audiowkstation Active Member

    I looked in my owners manuals and found this...might be of intrest...

    Data description protocol

    http://

    http://www.dcainc.com/support/docs/Ddp_license.pdf
     
  9. Bob Olhsson

    Bob Olhsson Distinguished Member

    Digidesign, in their infinite wisdom, dropped support for DDP with MLCD 2.0.

    The fact that it matters to those few of us digi users who actually master commercially released CDs didn't seem to matter very much...
     
  10. brad

    brad Guest

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  11. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    I wonder if a plextor is better than my Yamaha 4 x speed burner (mounted in a hot swap bay)
    I will look into it Thanks a lot Bill, Bob & Brad! This thread is rocking!
    Do you think they make a plextor that fits in a Rourk hot swap bay?
    :)
    Jules

    A got a good feeling about Jam burning software...On the digidesign newsgroup, folks in the know seem to prefer it over MLCD.
    :c:
     
  12. jbregar

    jbregar Guest

    Spectral Designs makes a plug in for $1000 that works integrates with WaveLab. It allows you to read/write DDP files from exabyte, HD and CDR.

    It's very cool and a good, cheap alternative to purchasing a Sonic workstation.
     
  13. Bob Olhsson

    Bob Olhsson Distinguished Member

    The first time you try to set accurate start IDs on a live album using JAM you'll come to appreciate MLCD.
     
  14. Blisshead

    Blisshead Guest

    Originally posted by johnnyb:
    Spectral Designs makes a plug in for $1000 that works integrates with WaveLab. It allows you to read/write DDP files from exabyte, HD and CDR.

    It's very cool and a good, cheap alternative to purchasing a Sonic workstation.


    What is it called?
     
  15. pan

    pan Guest

    In TC Spark, you are able to export Jam Images - is it any good to send this as data to a factory instead of a DDP?
     
  16. brad

    brad Guest

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  17. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    So how is this then:

    Burn Red book CDR on mac with sound files of Pro Tools Mixes so thats a hard drive to CDR - SDII (or AIFF)(try to get plextor burner)

    Take red book CDR and transfer that to Hard drive of Startrec CDR dupe machine.

    Burn copies from Hard drive of CDR Dupe.

    Hows that for a jitter raft ride?

    (also possible to read off the CD master while burning copies?? is that worse jitterwise?)

    Thanks

    :)

    Jules
     
  18. pan

    pan Guest

    So, just to confirm...I have compiled an Album with extensive crossfades.

    My options are: Send my compilation on CD Audio burnt from Jam on a Yamaha burner to the factory
    OR go to a Mastering House with Sadie/Sonic and do the whole compilation again to leave there with a DDP for the Factory?

    wattuyu tink?

    Niko
     
  19. brad

    brad Guest

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  20. brad

    brad Guest

    If you are happy with the transistions and overall sound quality of the master and if you are able to create a disc in Jam that plays back as you want, go ahead and send it to the factory. You might want to borrow someones Plextor and ask the plant for an error report (I assume you don't have a Stagetech or Clover ECC), but otherwise you should be fine...
     

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