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changing my studio completly

Discussion in 'Recording' started by damon_drunk, Oct 29, 2007.

  1. damon_drunk

    damon_drunk Guest

    hi all this is my first post so i hope i am posting in the right place..

    anyways i have been lookin at the mackie onyx 1640 and i think i want to get it and sell the majority of my other gear for it but i dont know if the gear i have already is better

    right now im using the hammerfall rme 9636 sound card
    with 2 beringher ultragain ada 8000s for a/d d/a converters
    but i would like to get more of a hands on feel with a/d converting right off the board is this board anygood i knoow there is only 2 outputs as oppse the 16 i already have.and dont use i only use 2 for play back left and right

    is the onyx fw card as good as the hammerfall rme 9636 will i get more latency

    i need to be recording 16 channels at one time is this board realy set up for that

    i just dont want to step back im trying to step forward im i making the right move is there maby somthing else i might wanna look into as oppse to the 1640

    my price range is around 2000 bux dont realy wanna spend more then that
    any help or sugestions would be fantastic
    thanx so much and sorry about the spelling
    cheers
    damon
     
  2. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    I guess my first question to you would be why change? Both units offer 24-bit 96kHz capabilities. Both units are good for 16 tracks worth of tracking (actually, the Mackie allows for 18 but you need to utilize 2 of those for monitor playback I believe). In its stock configuration, the Mackie equalizer's are not wired for tracking but only for mix down. So only in the situation of doing live sound and on location would there be an advantage to the Mackie where you can utilize the mixer for live PA feed during simultaneous 16 track tracking into/through your laptop, to an external hard disk drive. Plus, it's a lot more fun playing with all those knobs and dials instead of chasing a mouse all over your tabletop.

    Eeeek! A mouse!
    Ms. Remy Ann David
     
  3. damon_drunk

    damon_drunk Guest

    the reason i think i more or less would like it is
    i am running my studio like this 16 channels into a berhinger mx 3242 board in xlr then out 1/4 inch into my berhingers ada 8000 witch have what i would think are pretty crapy preamps
    so i would like to use the onyx premaps if there any good also not have to go to 1/4 inch just xlr to my computer i relize that its not that much better then my system but i like the hands on straght to the computer
    i just want to know how much i may lose or gain if changing over
     
  4. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    I actually like the idea, concept, of all of these new FireWire enabled mixers such as the 1640. I'm an old-fashioned engineer and I like all of the knobs and dials along with its versatility in signal routing and mixing.

    So I would say, yeah, go for the 1640. You'll get superior microphone preamps and if you should so desire equalization to FireWire to your computer. There is information out there on how this can be accomplished without voiding the Mackie warranty, if you should so desire to add equalization while tracking. Something I personally like to do because I'm not afraid of what I can't undo. Particularly because I don't do anything to make anything sound horrible.

    I'm having a horrendously good time.
    Ms. Remy Ann David
     
  5. damon_drunk

    damon_drunk Guest

    thanx so much for all your input
    so the eq is pree fader so i wont get my eq mix with the 1640 in my computer
    is there anyway u can set me in the right direction to be able to use the perkins eq in my tracking
    like web site or what ever u know
     
  6. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    Try searching the Recording.org database as I believe that modification to the 1640 was mentioned here? But yes, currently the 1640 only offers pre-fader microphone preamp tracking. You may also want to contact Mackie about that modification.

    Sorry I can't be of more help regarding the modification.
    Ms. Remy Ann David
     
  7. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    Mackies have always been pretty good at offering a solder point to change things pre / post...

    When my vacation is over on Friday I'll take a look at one of the Onyx's I've got and see what it can do for you.

    Bump the post then, lest I forget...
     
  8. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    damon_drunk, I could tell you to get bent. Come to think of it, I will tell you to get bent.

    In fact, if he wasn't married with children, I'd like to get bent.
    Ms. Remy Ann David
     
  9. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    Remy, you are too kind.

    :oops:
     
  10. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    I found a link for you that shows the pre/post eq modification step by step.
    This is for the 1620, but I'd assume that it is similar to the other models:

    (Dead Link Removed)

    Here's some other info about it:

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  11. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    bump
     

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