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Changing PC to Mac for Logic?

Discussion in 'Logic' started by Tonefloater, Aug 23, 2006.

  1. Tonefloater

    Tonefloater Guest

    Well hi ,

    I have been using Cubase for like a few months. And I understand that it's not for me nowadays. So with the influence of Steven Wilson ( Maybe you might know him ). He is a Logic user songwriter-producer. And he recommends Logic in nearly every way.

    So I am thinking about buying a Mac that can run Logic well. I heard this G5 thing but I wonder if it is a powerbook? And how much to they cost?

    And one more thing if any of you know anything about running MAC OSX on laptops :D I have been hearing rumors. I have searched the forum , there were a couple of threads but it wasn't enough.

    And this is my first message on this beatiful forum.

    Thanks
    Atay
     
  2. sheet

    sheet Well-Known Member

    Anything that people have said in the past means nothing now. The new Macs are all Intel'd, the new OS and chips are true 64-bit, Logic is 64-bit, the software and computer were made for each other. So use your senses and go to an Apple Store and get a demo.
     
  3. Tonefloater

    Tonefloater Guest

    Excuse me , what demo? :oops:
     
  4. sheet

    sheet Well-Known Member

    At the local Apple Store here, one of the Genious guys has a Logic system set up. If the guys want to do it, they can.
     
  5. Tonefloater

    Tonefloater Guest

    Actually I have visited a Apple Store here. But they were not heard of Logic :D So I have to search my own. So what machine should I get to run Logic well?
     
  6. Why is Cubase no longer for you?? Cubase is a sound program and yes, you might prefer Logic after getting to grips with it but it is a steep learning curve to dump something you're familiar with just because of one person's influence. Many hit records and film scores etc have been produced with Cubase too and Cubase 4 when released late 2006/early 2007 will be universal binary to make it compatible with G5 or Intel chips.

    There are pros and cons for using PCs and Macs too, PC's do have many strengths btw, just because macs are a bit of a buzzword doesn't necessarily mean you should change everything over and spnd a fortune doing so.

    In fact there are at least 3 examples of mac logic users coming to Cubase on PC in the cubase.net forum. Not knocking macs or Logic, both are excellent but you need to try them out first before making such a big and expensive commitment ! If the guy at the Apple store can't help you (unbelievable they couldn't help you!), try your local major music retailer - of course, if it feels right and you've got the cash then do it but don't rush into something blind...
     
  7. Tonefloater

    Tonefloater Guest

    Thank you very much for your comments. Anyhow I amnot buying a mac probably.I am tryin to install Mac Os x on my intel nowadays :D Any guide about that?
     
  8. gdoubleyou

    gdoubleyou Well-Known Member

    Well it works well o PC, but on a Mac only dual G5 owners are getting any joy. My Powebook couldn't handle it, SX has the higest minimum requirements of all the Mac DAWS.

    If you want to run it on a Macintel, you have to run it on XP. Even though it's crossplatform it contains no OSX optimization, it shares the codebase with the PC version.

    Because of the poor performance on Mac I moved my copy to my PC where it flies even on an ancient 733MHz cpu.

    So it's a wait and see if stienberg can deliver a product for the new Mac on their fist try. From past experience my hunch is that it will take six to nine months for them to get close.

    8)
     
  9. Yes, other people have noted your issues too. But there are a LOT of Mac users of Cubase on the cubase.net forum and of course, they are partisan to the product, but many of them are also unhappy with Logic and only the most recent update to 7.2 has any optimization for Intel Mac.

    New products typically need some time and a couple of bug fix releases to work properly, so you're probably right in saying that it may take 6-9 months for Cubase 4 on universal binary to have a major impact on the mac osx platform. However, this is probably true for all DAW software, Logic 7 had quite a few issues needing resolution when it was first released.

    Logic is probably a better MacOSX solution and will probably continue to be so since it is owned by Apple, solely for Mac OSX platform, all I'm saying is for those with cross platform or who already own Cubase, spending a penny short of 1k on Logic should be investigated thoroughly before splashing the cash, if you know what I mean :)
     
  10. VonRocK

    VonRocK Active Member

    Don't be a fool. Buy a Mac and run Windows on that, LEGALLY, if you need windows.
     
  11. gdoubleyou

    gdoubleyou Well-Known Member

    That won't work, Mac contain proprietary firmware, and if it's not present You cannot install. There was a crack of an incomplete developers version but it's not stable on PC hardware.

    You can get the entry level Mac mini for $599 Core Duo Cpu, capable of running both OSs

    8)
     
  12. VIControl

    VIControl Guest

    Another thing to consider isn't just in relation to Logic/Mac OS X w/Intel but also third party plug-in support. Currently we have a lot of them playing catch up (Native Instruments, etc) so it may be a bit before you could use those plugs in ANY sequencer (Cubase, Logic etc) until they fix the patches. Probably in a few months....

    Logic is a very cool program. I've tried Cubase & Digital Performer but went back to Logic. To me its more intuitive plus its not bad to look at after 12-15 hours on a long studio stretch.
     
  13. Tonefloater

    Tonefloater Guest

    Many thanks for your comments...And my final decision will be buyin a mac :D I have discovered them in nearly every way. They are simply perfect.
     
  14. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Careful now.They aren't perfect...yet. There are still many applications that are not ported for the mac. That being said, I'm considering Logic myself but I'm waiting for Cubase first to see how it runs.
     
  15. DIGIT

    DIGIT Guest

    Do you have a REASON to use a laptop? A laptop will always be less powerful and MORE expensive than an "equivalent" desktop.

    Also, a laptop offers no expandability (i.e. no PCIe slots) but, if you need to move around it's the thing to use. Ideally, you should have BOTH :)

    Logic will run fine on ANY of the latest Mac. In fact, it runs great on a dual G4. The more powerful you Mac the more plugins you can use, obviously. But, there will be NO opertaional differences between a G4 and the latest Mac PRO (i.e. the program will offer the same tools, etc...).

    So, it's up to your budget...your TOTAL budget that is. Computer and program are only two samll part of it.

    What AUDIO interface are you planning to use? Will you use dedicated PREs and A/D/A converters? How about a mixing board?
     
  16. Tonefloater

    Tonefloater Guest

    Actually my desktop is pretty old. My laptop is much more faster , thats why I use my laptop. And my MIDI keyboard and soundcard is both USB so its no problem about that. It works fine for me I think.

    And you are saying that logic would run very similar on Macbook and a Macbook Pro. ( When comparing speed ) ? Cause one is like 1000 and the other is 2000-2500.

    And my mac will be a laptop too probably. Would that be a serious problem? I want to carry it around. And the enough Logic performance for me.

    Thanks
     
  17. DIGIT

    DIGIT Guest

    Again, it all depends on the level of expectation. You can run Logic and WELL on the latest Mac laptops (as you could on the older models) but, you should use a Firewire AUDIO interface and have enough RAM and CPU power to run the amount of plugins YOU plan to use.

    Personally, I do NOT like the sound of mixes summed within a DAW, regardless of what it is (Logic, Cubase, Nuendo, etc....). I prefer to get the audio out of the DAW (via your audio interface of choice) and then, mix on a digital or analog mixer.

    Each has different needs and preferences. I'd never use a laptop in my studio. I do on the road but, not in the studio.
     

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