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Cheating Pro-tools M powered?

Discussion in 'Recording' started by JamesTS, Jan 22, 2007.

  1. JamesTS

    JamesTS Guest

    I am a cubase sx3 user, and obtained the Pro-tools m powered software from a competition. I really want to try it, but i don't want to spend 1300 dollars on a m-audio project mix console just to run the software. I use a firepod as an interface, and was wondering if i can link my firepod to an m-audio firewire interface, so i dont have to spend an extra 1000 dollars to try pro-tools.

    any answers?
  2. TVPostSound

    TVPostSound Guest

    $79 Dongle for Protools M-Powered!!!!
    Seriously, I have one for my Mac Book Pro.
    I can edit regular Protools sessions using MPowered!!!!

  3. JamesTS

    JamesTS Guest

    I have the M powered dongle, my problem is that I dont want to buy a new m-audio 1300 dollar interface, when I have another interface that wont work because it isnt m-audio compatible. However i thought maybe I could link my firewire interface to an m-audio firewire interface to fool the software, but still record through my non-m-audio interface.
  4. yxf933

    yxf933 Guest

    You mean:Connect an M-audio firewire to Firepod and run protools software in firepod hardware .
    It's impossible.
  5. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    I'm afraid he is correct. If only it were possible.
  6. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Well-Known Member

    M-Audio, makes a couple of inexpensive 2 Channel, USB devices. They range in price from $80 to $250 and can run ProTools. So you plug the little piece of crap in and monitor its output. What don't you understand?

    I think I'm going to buy one of those things just to have ProTools? If I want real-time effects, well then that's something else. Otherwise, I'll be able to render things out and preview stuff so?

    Practically practical
    Ms. Remy Ann David
  7. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    I don't think that was the issue. He wants to use the Firepod with ProTools. It just can't be done. I suppose you could track with the Firepod and mix in ProTools.
  8. TVPostSound

    TVPostSound Guest

    That sounds like the only solution at this time.
  9. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Well-Known Member

    Oh? Right. he he sorry. What don't I understand?? Just about everything I guess?

    Yes, but by the same standpoint, the Fire Pod, even though it comes with software that he doesn't much like using, it could at least be used for the initial 8 input tracking session? Then, that M-Audio USB device, of your choosing, since it is so inexpensive, could be used in its single or 2 input configuration for overdubs, mixing and monitoring through ProTools after importing the initial wave files from the tracking session.

    Conversely, purchasing more than 1 of those, they are inexpensive enough, one could probably be able to track as many inputs as they have USB 2.0 inputs providing 2 inputs from each one of those devices. I have 4 just on my laptop. I've actually thought about purchasing a couple of their line level USB devices for my laptop? Since I don't do ProTools, this would be an inexpensive way for me to be able to tracking and mix, up to 8 line inputs being fed from my API and Neve outboard Mike preamps if I wanted to stay purely within ProTools.

    Confusingly obvious, obviously confused
    Ms. Remy Ann David
  10. BRH

    BRH Active Member

    M-Audio is now selling M-Powered ProTools Academic for $149. Includes iLok AND TimeCode Option, plus Digitranslater.


    Also needs a qualified M-audio interface for it.
    TC plus DigiTranslater.... this is an option that cost $1295 for PTLE users. Now, if M-Audio only would make a PCIe card with an ADAT connection, I'd be most happy.
    I'm a long time user/supporter of PT, but I now feel they need to "Give It UP" and let people use the interface of their choice.

    Apple is about to unleash something. They have hooked up with Apogee and have an interface with PCIe bridge card .... they are claiming 1.6ms delay.
  11. sickly

    sickly Guest

    So presonus and pro tools don't get along... what interfaces DO get along with PT that don't cost an arm and a leg?
  12. David French

    David French Well-Known Member

    Only M-Audio products (for PT M-Powered) and the lower-end Digidesign interfaces (for PTLE); I believe the cheapest one is the M-Box 2 Mini.
  13. cfaalm

    cfaalm Active Member

    So how do you wire a Yamaha 01v96 into ProTools? It has a remote layer to control it, so I guess there must be some way.
  14. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Well-Known Member

    David this is really funny. I just purchased an M-audio "Transit" 2 Channel USB device, just so I would have something that was ProTools capable. It was only $90 US and is ProTools compatible but doesn't include it. It came with Abelton Live 5, which I couldn't get to load on the HP laptop? Go figure? Guess I will have to contact Digi-Resign about that?

    It's actually a higher resolution unit than the Mbox series of units, which don't do anything other than 48kHz. It's 24-bit 96kHz but then they went and put those lousy 1/8" stereo phono plugs on the damn thing! WTF?? So it will be fine to use with my Neve and/or API portable preamps.....if those lousy 1/8" phono plugs work? Now to pick up a copy of ProTools for M-box. I need to learn that frigin' software since I never purchased anything more than a AudioMedia III card back in 1996.

    Simply stupid
    Ms. Remy Ann David
  15. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Are you meaning to use this simply as a control surface? There should be a way. I imagine you would need to set it up as a midi control surface. You won't be able to use the inputs at all for ProTools unless you go from the direct outs or ADAT out if it has it, into a digi interface or even an 002 or Mbox 2 Pro.

    Either way you need some sort of Digi device in order to run ProTools.
  16. If you'd ever tried Pro Tools M-Powered (coming from Cubase SX, Sonar, Logic,Samplitude etc) you would very quickly realize that it about as exciting as standing out on a cold day watching paint dry on a great big white wall.

    I mean, why would you want to. Pro Tools MIDI sucks, it's audio tracks are very limited, unless you get a 'power' pack or a 'bomb pack' (preferably put the protools interfac and software in the bomb pack, stand a safe distance away and hit the detonator...) the inbuilt fx are OK but lacking in quantity, no real time processing of fx, terrible dreary GUI, I could go on and on....

    The only redeeming and valuable feature of PTLE or M-Powered is the ability to open their projects in a 'proper' ProTools environment such as the HD version costing many thousands run by (too many) studios.
  17. BRH

    BRH Active Member

    RemyRadHoney.........Just buy the M-Powered Academic from M-Audio. The M-Powered is the same software as the Mbox PTLE from Digi, but you need M-audio hardware with it. You love hardware!? Then update to 7.3
    PITA...... Comes with TC and OMF for $149 includes iLok. Transit is a qualified interface.
  18. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Well-Known Member

    BRH, yes the academic bundle looks tasty, time code and all but should I want to use it for my paid work, I'm not sure if the academic version is considered legal for that purpose? Of course it doesn't hurt to ask, which is why I have already put an e-mail into Digi design.

    Didshe design. Of course.
    Ms. Remy Ann David
  19. BRH

    BRH Active Member

    Your're probably right. Thought you'd be able to purchase it.... you do stuff for NPR. Maybe you could use it on PSAs.
  20. CharlesDayton

    CharlesDayton Active Member

    Remy, unless you are looking for a job with a company that uses Protools, why bother? The crippled MBox version is not going to sell you on the platform.

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