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cleaning up vocal recording

Discussion in 'Vocals' started by jscnva, Jun 27, 2005.

  1. jscnva

    jscnva Guest

    I need help in figuring out how, if possible, to clean up the echo sounds in a vocal recording. I have some recorded vocals and they sound good when listened to through regular speakers, but when listend to through head phones the echo of the room they were recorded in really stands out and sounds awful. Is there a way to remove that in software?

    I'm not a pro obviosly so any help would be much appreciated.

  2. McCheese

    McCheese Well-Known Member

    Not really, the best fix is to re-record them in a deader or better sounding room. Try hanging blankets and stuff to help if you can't move.
  3. David French

    David French Well-Known Member

    Yes, it's not very possible to remove echo once it has been recorded.
  4. CoyoteTrax

    CoyoteTrax Well-Known Member

    Also, make sure you listen to the vox with the rest of the mix before making any rash decisions. Maybe you already have. But if not, I'd track the rest of the instruments and see how it sounds then. You never know, it might be a great effect the song needs.

    Just a thought.
  5. jscnva

    jscnva Guest


    Thanks for all the help and advice everyone I guess I have my work cut out for me. It's all part of the learning process I guess. :)

  6. tmcconnell

    tmcconnell Guest


    Mic the room on each track and put the room mic out of phase with the track in question.

    might help a little. Also, you can sample "room tone" - the quiet room - and use it as input to a noise modeling algorithm like those in samplitude etc.
  7. Dosser

    Dosser Active Member

    Pardon my ignorance, but I don't see how the above suggestion would help.

    The vocal is already recorded, so there is nothing to mic in the room that would then cancel out the echo by flipping the phase.

    Even if you did this while recording new vocals, it wouldn't help. The phase reversed mic would also pick up the sound of the vocal in addition to the echo, and cause cancellation on both, not just the echo.

    Sampling the noise floor of the room (HVAC rumble, etc.) and using that with a noise reduction program would only try to reduce the noise floor, not get rid of individual vocal echoes. They would not be part of the room sample. Even if you used the vocal track as your noise sample for the computer, the program has no way to differentiate the vocal you want from the echo you don't want.
  8. tmcconnell

    tmcconnell Guest


    I agree with all that - but we seemed to be grasping at straws.

    I have successfully eliminated unwanted ambience using room tome as a model input.

    I agree also that one its recorded, the phase trick won't work - but I wasn't sure about the context of the question.

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