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close miking in stereo?

Discussion in 'Recording' started by took-the-red-pill, May 5, 2005.

  1. took-the-red-pill

    took-the-red-pill Active Member

    So I'm wondering if there is a preferred method for close miking in stereo, or if this is commonly done, or if it's a major faux pas.

    It seems to me in my reading here and elsewhere that the XY, ORTF, and Bloomingdales configs are usually used for room mics where they are a ways back from the sound source.

    Today I was recording an acoustic guitar. I spent $10 one of those devices that holds two mics at a time, set them to X-Y and then I was able to move the whole thing around as a unit(I guess that's what everyone probably does).

    So I realised that I didn't want one pointing at the sound hole and the other up the neck, or it would sound like hell, so I turned the whole business 90° so they were at the 14th fret, 8" away, pointing at either upper bout. In the interest of phase oddities I made sure the whole business was parallel to the guiltar. I then told the guiltarist if he moved, I'd have him flogged. (don't try this if your guitarist has a snotty nose, as it's essentially pointing up at his face...)

    I listened in mono, and it didn't appear to be doing any weird phase things. It seemed to have a pretty sweet sound, and decent stereo separation, but I"m wondering what you guys have tried that works?

    I'm not too big on the sound of micing other spots on the guitar, like by the bridge, and I'd think that there's a greater risk of phase issues with minute movements of the guitar(?), so I'd like to keep the mics reasonably close together near that 14th fret if possible.

    any ideas or experiences?

    Thanks
    Keith
     
  2. took-the-red-pill

    took-the-red-pill Active Member

    Sorry, I mean ONE of the mics is pointing up at his face...

    My room is reasonably dead, but I guess in a live room, one would get an interesting reverb, as one mic is pointing at the guitar bout and the floor, the other at the bout and the ceiling.

    Hmm...

    Keith
     
  3. zemlin

    zemlin Well-Known Member

    Here's my latest acoustic guitar recording. This was the first time I had tried stereo. I ended up with XY. I think it was somewhere between Fret 12 and the sound hole, about 14" from the guitar.

    http://www.cheap-tracks.com/mp3/cheap_tracks_04-02-05.mp3

    Vocals were recorded at the same time. This is STRAIGHT out of the box. Only levels were tweaked - no EQ, no compression. I think the guitar sounds pretty good.
     
  4. JBsound

    JBsound Guest

    If you're doing x/y and your capsules are aligned, you aren't really going to have to worry about phase. That's one of the benefits to x/y. You really should try a spaced pair or variations of it on acoustic...it can sound pretty sweet.
     
  5. David French

    David French Well-Known Member

    Depends on the sound you are going for. Width is defined by how different the two channels are. For a really wide sound, try on mic on axis at the 12th fret, and the other mic pointing down at the bridge.
     

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