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Compressor compressing without meters moving?

Discussion in 'Recording' started by JohnTodd, Nov 7, 2011.

  1. JohnTodd

    JohnTodd Well-Known Member

    As I dial in my VST- Waves API2500 in Wavelab, it gets louder long before the gain reduction meters start moving. Am I already compressing at this point? Am I doing it wrong?

    Wavelab = my attempt at mastering. So this is a compressor across the entire mix.

  2. Paul999

    Paul999 Active Member

    I am not sure about plug in versions but hardware compressors usually do start compressing before the meters start moving.
  3. JohnTodd

    JohnTodd Well-Known Member

    I guess since this plug in is supposed to mimic the API2500, it probably does that part, too.

  4. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    What do you HEAR? Thats what its doing......Also....switch the metering functions to the input and then compare it to the output in both modes...ie: ON and BYPASS. You want a 'steady-state' on the needles on the output. Since this is 'mastering you'll want it right at zero with little deflection.
  5. JohnTodd

    JohnTodd Well-Known Member

    Hear...is a good idea, but I fear my ears are not trained well enough for mastering. It certainly sounds better to me when dialing it in, but then the next day I'll second guess myself and start hating it. LOL! Curse of an artist.

    Dave, I don't understand: at zero with little deflection? Isn't that close to brickwalling, AKA, Loudness War stuff? I don't want that.
  6. bouldersound

    bouldersound Real guitars are for old people. Well-Known Member

    What position is the Manual Make-Up switch in? Some mastering compressors start making up the gain when you adjust the threshold, even before they start to compress.
  7. JohnTodd

    JohnTodd Well-Known Member

    Manual make-up is off. I usually render the compressor/exciter, etc., and then norm to -1db.

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