I have always had problems de-essing. I cant seem to get it to work right. People tell me to de-ess around 1.6 - 3k. BUt the freqs i hear jumping out are higher like 6 - 8k. I have a avalon 737, which should de-ess perfectly, according to the manual. By time I get the comp to kick in on the esses its kicking in on all kinds of stuff. And the ratio between ess compression and program(for lack of better term) compression isnt enough to make it worth doing. So I eq the track. What do I get?... you guessed it, a dull vocal track. I hear so much hi end in vocals these days and yet the esses are perfectly squashed. Is there something that I can listen for when tracking to aviod this problem? I usuall place the vocal mic just above the singers mouth and aim down at the mouth. I do this so I dont have to use a pop filter. Maybe this is the wrong mic placement. Suggestions???