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Deep, bassy, warm sounding Microphone

Discussion in 'Bass' started by harman90, Oct 6, 2013.

  1. harman90

    harman90 Active Member

    Hi !
    I am new to recordings and want your help in choosing the microphones.
    I have scarlett 2i2 Interface.
    I have a mid tone (midway between bassy and bright) kind of Voice and Want to product deep basy kind of Voice overs. I have heard Several Youtubers and VO artist who produce warm rich sounding recordings! but in reality their voice is not that bassy !
    For example check the intro of this guy : Recording Vocals & Voice Over with Free or Cheap Acoustic Treatment - YouTube

    Is this really Microphone or It's preamp ? How can i bring that much warmth in my Recordings?

    Some micriphones in my list >> e945, e835, Shure sm58, Re320
    Please recommend What I need
    Thanks.
     
  2. Mo Facta

    Mo Facta Active Member

    Any mic with a pronounced proximity effect. Large diaphragm condensers will do this but the good ones are expensive. Look into a Neumann TLM103.

    Other than that a Shure SM7 will work as it was built for voice overs or a ribbon like the Royer 121 or the Cheaper Cascade Fat Head II. Ribbons have enormous low end but can often sound dark.

    Mic pres will have very little impact on the sound in comparison.

    Cheers :)
     
  3. harman90

    harman90 Active Member

    Thank you Mate for reply ! SM7b wont work on My Interface ! Plus I am little on tight budget here. :) I have tried Proximity effect but adds to my midtone ! Plus makes Voiceover little harsh. Here is example of VO.


    View: https://soundcloud.com/charan900/sample-file


    Why is it sounding so harsh? Maybe signal is hotter then it should be ?Please check out the Video in my first reply to get Idea of what Actually I want to achieve.
     
  4. moonbaby

    moonbaby Mmmmmm Well-Known Member

    It appears that the soundclip is not available...
    You need to be able to "work" a tight-patterned mic to take advantage of its' proximity effect. This takes practice. I have used the RE-320 and it's pretty good...more proximity than a RE-20. Remember that the tighter-patterned mics keep the room out of the equation. Mics designed for live sound vocals are usually good candidates for this when you have a restricted budget.
     
  5. harman90

    harman90 Active Member

    https://soundcloud.com/charan900/sample-file
    Now it will work ! Please check out the Sample and give me details on it.
    This is recorded when I was quite closer to my mic.

    Further more, Could you be able to record to show me the difference with RE-320, I would really appreciate it. Do you have Some mic in mind which have enormous low end
     
  6. harman90

    harman90 Active Member

    Would Cascade Fat Head be able to work with Scarlett 2i2.

    Just to let you know that it doesnt have enough gain for SM7b - leads to Hissing.
     
  7. DSPDiva

    DSPDiva Active Member

    If you don't have enough gain for a SM7B, you won't have enough for the ribbon. Ribbons tend to need a lot of gain. Also, +1 on the RE320.
     
  8. CoyoteTrax

    CoyoteTrax Well-Known Member

    EV N/D 767 or 967

    Nice, full humbucking bass that smooth and rich.

    The 767 actually sounds pretty nice with the 2i2 pre's, and the 2i2 has plenty of gain.
     
  9. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    The max gain on the 2i2 is only 55dB, which is not really enough for ribbons and other low-output dynamics that are not being shouted into at close range.

    One solution to a lack of gain is to use an in-line signal booster. The Cloudlifter is perhaps the most well-known example of these, but there are others.
     
  10. harman90

    harman90 Active Member

    Thank you for Help ! I checked out youtube comparison, it sounded even Brighter than SHure sm58 and the Graph also shows its peak on higher range. :(
     
  11. Lotus7

    Lotus7 Active Member

    As has already been mentioned, you won't have enough gain for a FatHead with out adding a Cloudlifter or a FetHead.

    If the Fat Head interests you, you might want to consider the Cascade C77. Unlike the Fat Head, it has a significant broad rise in response below 300 Hz which then flattens out as frequencies drop down to about 30 Hz. Another "long" ribbon that sounds great on male voices and delivers that "announcer" vibe is the Jon Ulrigg Shinybox 46MXL. I've personally used those with Triton Audio FetHeads and with a FetHead, they will work with virtually any low cost mic pre. It's not as pronounced as the C77, but still delivers a deep and smooth bass response.
     
  12. lbeasley

    lbeasley Active Member

    This is a combination of a good condenser mic, pre-amp, compressor and mixer. I will tell you this. The magic is at the mixing level (Compression and EQ). If your on a budget, then I would suggest that you invest in a good Condenser mic and pre-amp. Your eq, compression and mixing can be done inside the box (your DAW program such as Protools, Nuendo, etc).
     
  13. kooz

    kooz Active Member

    yes indeed, those EV mics are nice...and with directionality (and the associated proximity) combined with a rare-earth magnet, a hot output that won't need much preamplification.
     
  14. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    You may be mistaking "low end" for resonance and tone. And these are factors that will change greatly from vocalist to vocalist. There are some people who just have that "oomph" or "edge" or "rasp" to their voices, or a combination of all three, that lends to a very pleasing overall warmth.

    In short, just because you might buy a mic that someone like Don LaFontaine used, doesn't mean you'll sound like him. ;)


    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjWKE-IJ4R8
     
  15. Josh Conley

    Josh Conley Active Member

    agree.
    im of the opinion that "deep and bassy" has more to do with the singer/source, how you setup, and your room than it has to do with the mic itself.
    tell the singer to "make love" to the mike, record in a "dead" room and deep & bassy is right there
     
  16. Paul999

    Paul999 Active Member

    With voice overs a very dead quiet space is essential. This makes eq work even better.
     
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