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Delay pedal kills my volume

Discussion in 'Accessories / Connections' started by TBBucs, Mar 15, 2010.

  1. TBBucs

    TBBucs Guest

    Gear in question:
    Peavy Valve King 112 tube amp
    Boss DD20 Giga Delay

    I just bought a Boss DD20 Giga Delay, and when I set it up the output is barely audible. It's pretty simple to connect, so I don't think anything is wrong there (amp send -> pedal mono in, pedal mono out -> amp receive). I also noticed that when I unplug the pedal and only plug a cable into the amp's Send jack, the volume goes way down even with nothing connected, so maybe it's not the pedal at all that's the issue.

    Any idea what's wrong?
  2. TBBucs

    TBBucs Guest

    Ok, turns out I have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to amps and amp effects. So after a little research, I think I have a better idea of what's going on (but not how to fix it).

    In my first post, I was trying to hook up the delay pedal in the effects loop (after the preamp and before the power amp, right?). I tried hooking it up before the preamp, and it works and is at full volume. But I read that, generally speaking, people put delays in the effects loop. Why is my effect loop volume so low (I don't think I have a volume knob specifically for it like some apparently do)?
  3. Jeemy

    Jeemy Well-Known Member

    Not sure if its the effects loop that is really low or the fact the Giga delay isn't putting out a line level output, but a guitar level output. I'd guess your send is expecting a line level return from rack-type gear, but the Gigadelay is sending a guitar-level signal. Without looking at the manuals for the amp. Either that or your amps effects loop has something wrong with it. Either way you should be fine the way you are now.
  4. bouldersound

    bouldersound Real guitars are for old people. Well-Known Member

    It looks to me like the insert is setup for guitar pedals. From the manual:

    TBBucs, try running the guitar into the pedal and that into the return.
  5. TBBucs

    TBBucs Guest

    So...this is pretty embarrassing. Guess what happened when I switched the send/return cables? :)

    Thanks for your help guys. The bright side is that I learned a little about how effects work, so I guess it wasn't a waste.
  6. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    I love these AHA! moments.
  7. bouldersound

    bouldersound Real guitars are for old people. Well-Known Member

    I can respect that you came back to 'fess up and not leave us hanging. One of these days someone will be having the exact same problem and you'll casually point out their cabling error making you look like a hero.

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