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Difference between cables

Discussion in 'Accessories / Connections' started by rockdude, Dec 17, 2008.

  1. rockdude

    rockdude Active Member

    Can anyone help me out with what the difference is bewtween http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Hosa-Dual-TRS-TRS-Patch-Cable?sku=333003 and http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Musicians-Gear-Tweed-14-Straight-Instrument-Cable?sku=330075
    like do balanaced 1/4" audio cables carry stero? isnt it just one channel so how do you do stereo plug one into the left and right output? my keyboard (Casio WK-8000) has two 1/4" outputs left and right so how should I connect it to my audio interface http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Digidesign-Mbox-2-Mini-?sku=700498
    it has 2 line inputs so do I use the first cable or the second? I should prefer balanced right?
     
  2. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Balanced cables are.......balanced which means they are essentially, noise canceling. Someone else can describe how that works better than I. Basically there are two positives one out of phase with the other or something to that effect. Use those between your interface and your monitors.

    The braided shielding and woven cable are nice. If you can get a set of those in a balanced cable that would be cool.
     
  3. rockdude

    rockdude Active Member

    yea i sort of knew what the balanced did but i just dont know how you go about using them or how over unbalanced in my case
    wait is this balanced? http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Hosa-Dual-TRS-TRS-Patch-Cable?sku=333003

    also i used to use this http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Live-Wire-3.5M-TRSDual-14-Y-Cable?sku=330481
    when recording from my keyboard directly to my pc sound card is that balanced? the 1/8" side has two black rings
     
  4. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    Use two separate TS jack cables.
     
  5. GeckoMusic

    GeckoMusic Guest

    This is a common misconception. While a balanced cable has three conductors it only carries a mono signal. Headphones also have three conductors but carry a stereo signal. The difference is that a balance cable has wires for + and - signal. When these two are summed, The result cancels any noise that would have been induced equally on the + and - halves.

    Both the M-Box and Casio are balanced, so I would recommend using 2 1/4" TRS balanced cables. On the other hand, TR cables will be cheaper, and because of the short run length and high signal level you probably aren't going to hear a difference. So it really doesn't matter. Personally I would go with the TRS because they are more useful, and both input and output are balanced.
     
  6. rockdude

    rockdude Active Member

    so any 1/4" audio wire with two black rings or TRS is balanced right? so whats the difference between this cable http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Hosa-Dual-TRS-TRS-Patch-Cable?sku=333003
    and 2 of these http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Live-Wire-TRSTRS-Balanced-Patch-Cable?sku=330494 ?
    are 2 of these cables used in L and R outputs the same as using the 1 above cable?
     
  7. GeckoMusic

    GeckoMusic Guest

    You got it!
     
  8. StephenMC

    StephenMC Member

    Is there any reason to own an unbalanced cable, then?
     
  9. rockdude

    rockdude Active Member

    which of those two would u guys recommend i get?
     
  10. GeckoMusic

    GeckoMusic Guest

    Cost. 10% of a studio gear budget is cables. And 50% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
    If you had an unbalance output, and a balanced input, then the unconnected wire would act like an antenna, and add noise. With a regular 1/4 cable you would not have that problem.
     
  11. BrianaW

    BrianaW Active Member

    Hi,
    Don't get the HOSA one, I have it and it shorts out very quickly and easily. IDK about the other one.
     
  12. Greener

    Greener Guest

    I second this, I owned one HOSA, I cut the end off it when the TRS jack started acting like a fish hook and trying to gut systems. Then we let the bits float around on the floor of the lounge room, it was a nice piece of detritus that suited the decor.
     
  13. BrianaW

    BrianaW Active Member

    HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Beautiful. :)
     

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