Digital transfer to computer - Edirol 1X recording levels

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by charles-isc, Mar 15, 2006.

  1. charles-isc

    charles-isc Guest

    Hi forum!

    I bought the Edirol 1X a few months ago intending to use it to transfer cassette tapes and vinyl directly through its USB to my computer at home and at work - since it is so protable. Since then I have discovered that the 1X model only has a high and low impedence switch so the input level is very limited. I wanted to bypass my crummy 90s Yamaha amplifier when transferring vinyl at home and go directly from the turntable 9 (which is a high end 70s model), but neither the high or low impedence produces a strong enough signal from the turntable to record. The cassette tapes will transfer ok but the peak level is about half of what it should be in Audition.

    So here are my questions. Since the signal being recorded is digital, if it is digitally boosted in Audition after it is recorded does it do any 'damage' to the sound? Secondly, would the 1EX (which has a volume control) work better or is there a different device that you recommend that would accomplish both of these tasks?

    My intention is to have a portable device that would make a better digital transfer of vinyl than my Sound Blaster Live! card while bypassing my amplifier at home - and that I could use with my cassette deck which is at work (where I can leave the deck running/transferring on a second computer all day while I do real work.)

    Thanks for your input.

  2. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Distinguished Member

    Sep 12, 2002
    NYC New York
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    For what you are doing, raising the gain in the computer should be fine. As far a vinyl goes, you are going to have to use a phono preamp. Not only to match the impedence but it also needs to run through an IRAA curve to sound right. So in your case, you are going to have to run it through your crappy yamaha.
  3. charles-isc

    charles-isc Guest

    Thanks Michael,

    So, I wonder if I used the Edirol strictly for the cassettes, would I be better off getting one of the new digital preamp/converters specifically for recording vinyl so I could bypass the amp? I have noticed in the past that records that I have converted to CDs using that amp have a noticeable lack of bass response. I'm quite sure it's not the turntable or cartridge. If you think this would be a better route to go any product suggestions?

  4. JerryTubb

    JerryTubb Guest

    What's and "Edirol" ...never heard of it?

    and yes, you MUST use a phono pre-amp with your turntable to get the signal up to Line Level and to apply the RIAA EQ curve, or else the sound from your Vinyl will be very low and thin.
  5. charles-isc

    charles-isc Guest

    Here's info about the Roland Edirol

    I understand that I need a preamp for a turntable connection. I was hoping that the digital device had such a preamp built into it. I'm just trying to find a better solution than a cheap 1990s home amplifier.
  6. JerryTubb

    JerryTubb Guest

    Rotel 970 is a decent sounding Phono Preamp for a very reasonable price, strictly analog though. I've never seen a phono preamp with digital converters built in.
  7. charles-isc

    charles-isc Guest

    I'm really surprised that no one has made a digital phono preamp.
  8. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Distinguished Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    Silicon Valley
    E-MU has an RIAA phone preamp on their 1616/1616M and 1820/1820m digital audio interface products. I use the 1820M and get great results with my record collection.

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