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Does temperature make a difference with hard drive prformnc?

Discussion in 'Recording' started by jonnystevens, Oct 14, 2008.

  1. jonnystevens

    jonnystevens Guest

    I just moved my studio downstairs into a room that\'s temperature usually is pretty low. I would say around 55-60 degrees. I have noticed that my system has been overloading much more then before. I noticed the external hard drive is cold in temperature when I feel it. Could that be causing my system to overload?
     
  2. Greener

    Greener Guest

    That\'s weird, electronics have to be designed to work in a climate range, but cooling them down isn\'t usually a problem. Unless ice forms from moisture in the air.
    Snap freezing and then thawing can sometimes work to make dead HDD come back to life. Little random nugget there. :p

    To answer the question, temperature does affect things. But I doubt it\'s what\'s causing this problem.

    Please, anyone. Discuss further. I\'m making things up as I go along.
     
  3. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    What do you mean by overloading?

    Generally speaking, it is better to run electronic equipment in a cool room. Heat is the enemy.

    Unless your disk drive is marginal, ambient temperature variations in the range you describe will have no effect on performance. A drive reaches its operating temperature after a few minutes of use.

    If your drive does appear to be sensitive to temperature, you should replace it before you lose valuable data.
     
  4. jonnystevens

    jonnystevens Guest

    I am running logic 7 and it keeps giving me an error that says something like core system overload.
     
  5. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    That sounds like a Core Audio issue. Can you post the exact error message?
     
  6. jonnystevens

    jonnystevens Guest

    Core Audio

    System overload
    "The audio system was not able to process all required data in time"
    (-10011)
     
  7. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    -how full is your drive?
    -do you ave anything else connected to that firewire port?
    -what interface?
    -which os?
     
  8. jonnystevens

    jonnystevens Guest

    Macbook 2 ghz. 2 gigs ram (maxed out). 10.4 operating system. Presonus Firebox is my audio interface (currently using my firewire input). Lacie 250 GIG 7500 rpm external hard drive using usb 2.0. I probably am using about 80 gigs on it. Any suggestions?
     
  9. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Does the Lacie also have a Firewire option that allows for daisy chaining?

    I can't help but think it's a software setup thing. Is it possible that settings have changed since you moved it? Have you maybe opted to leave the power adapter for the Lacie unconnected for convenience sake? I'm taking stabs in the dark here.
     
  10. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    Recording with firewire and storing with usb, does it work?
     
  11. jonnystevens

    jonnystevens Guest

    Ok, I guess I was connecting it wrong. I put a firewire output from my audio interface to the computer and a firewire output from my audio interface to my hard-drive. Is that correct?

    I still have the same core audio problem though.

    Are there settings in logic that I need to change? Audio settings? Buffer settings?

    thanks for you help
     
  12. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Well-Known Member

    No, that's not correct. You need separate ports on your computer to connect these devices. You cannot daisychain and you cannot direct connect. So your audio interface is plugged into your FireWire. You're disk drive also needs to be plugged into your computer, not into your audio device. If you do not have a secondary FireWire port, try your USB 2.0 port, to your hard disk drive. Put the lime in the coconut and drink it all down.

    I'll take another coconut please
    Ms. Remy Ann David
     
  13. jonnystevens

    jonnystevens Guest

    Is USB 2.0 a lot slower then firewire?

    So getting a firewire hub wouldn't work since I only have 1 firewire input in my laptop?
     
  14. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Well-Known Member

    USB 2.0 is actually rated as being slightly faster than FireWire 400. From what I understand it's the caching that is different in how it handles the data stream. I have no problem playing back 24 tracks with USB 2.0 & 7500 rpm, 3.5" hard drives. Any other hiccups on playback, with plug-ins running, is usually buffer settings. Plus other trash running in the background on your PC. That can be remedied by going to your start menu, to, RUN & inputting " MSconfig " followed by enter. Go to startup and start deselecting everything. Then go to the services tab, select "show everything except Microsoft services". And start to deselect whatever isn't 100% necessary. Then you can restart your computer.

    See if that does it for you?
    Ms. Remy Ann David
     
  15. Greener

    Greener Guest

    Talk about giving a monkey a musket.
     
  16. jonnystevens

    jonnystevens Guest

    I have a mac. My buffer is at 512. Maybe thats the problem?
     
  17. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    "I have a mac. Maybe thats the problem?"

    IMO, yes. :lol:

    Your buffer should be fine at that level. If you really suspect it, try it at 1024 or something higher than 512 if you can.
     
  18. whistler

    whistler Guest

    Macbook firewire to audio interface to external hard drive is correct. I have a macbook pro, and was getting similar messages...I used idefrag on my external drive and they stopped immediately.
     
  19. jonnystevens

    jonnystevens Guest

    Whistler, thanks. So should I have two firewire chords going out of my audio interface? (one to cpu, one to external hard drive?) Or should I have firewire from audio interface to cpu then usb 2.0 from external hard drive into cpu?

    thanks
     
  20. whistler

    whistler Guest

    I have one firewire running from my macbook into my motu ultralite, another firewire cable goes from the ultralite to the external hard drive. This setup has worked flawlessly for the past three years. I would skip the usb.
     

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