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Drum Triggers

Discussion in 'Drums' started by 6APTAWEB, Mar 30, 2008.

  1. 6APTAWEB

    6APTAWEB Guest

    Hey guys and gals,

    I'm looking to get some triggers so I can play some beats or w/e and then on the computer assign some samples to each trigger or manipulate the sounds on the computer or use it with Reason or something.

    Basically this is a way to stop programming drums and save money on getting an e-kit. Also I could have alot more sound options then an e-kit if it works properly.

    So I get triggers...they are connected to some kind of equipment that is connected to my computer. I record midi...so on the midi matrix or w.e its called there are bars drawn from w.e I played.

    And then I can change the sounds.

    Could I do this? How do I do this? Would any of you know? Does any of that make sense? Please help me.
     
  2. pr0gr4m

    pr0gr4m Well-Known Member

    Absolutely
    Absolutely
    Here goes...

    Triggers are the first step. You can buy them or make them. I've picked up old electric drum pads over the years and also have a Roland Ocatpad. Making a trigger is super-simple. There are tons of tutorials on the net that explain how to do it with simple radio shack components.

    With something like an Octapad or DrumKat you can set each pad to trigger a certain MIDI note. You can also set up velocity sensitivity for each pad. I would imagine that the newer stuff allows you to use different MIDI channels per pad per velocity and all sorts of MIDI wickedness. My stuff is old so it's one pad/one note.

    If you just buy triggers you need a way to convert the trigger to MIDI data. Drum brains do that sort of thing. But there are some other alternatives. One of the most commonly used devices for this are the Alesis D4 and D5 drum machines. Basically they are rack mount drum modules that have trigger inputs. They also have a MIDI in and out. You can use the triggers to play the internal drum sounds on them or you can configure the triggers to send a MIDI message via the MIDI out to whatever device your heart desires. With this, you are basically just getting MIDI note/velocity data. If you want to do more you may want to take a different route.

    The alternative to all of this would be to get some sort of MIDI controller. It can be a keyboard controller or maybe just a pad controller. Several of the keyboard variety are more than just keyboards. They have knobs, sliders and drum pads to control all sorts of MIDI devices and data. Then there are the pad controllers like the Trigger Finger that have a grid of pads which are fully programmable and can control all sorts of different MIDI data.

    Basically, what you want to do can be done in a few different ways and can be done on the cheap.
     
  3. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    And, as luck would have it, this guy has one(DM5) and isn't sure he wants it anymore.

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  4. 6APTAWEB

    6APTAWEB Guest

    Thank you very much. The problem with the sound modules is that I'm paying for the internal sounds when I don't really need them.

    Is there just something I could use to get the triggers to send a midi signal to whatever program I'd be using.

    This seems like it might be the right thing...

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    or this

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  5. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    Yea, the DM5 is like one of those boxes only older. Much much older:)

    Youd have to look at what you want from the boxes above to make a decision. Roland is big in the field...but that Alesis trigger IO looks like a good fit for the money.
     
  6. 6APTAWEB

    6APTAWEB Guest

    Wait up! Couldn't I just get triggers and put them through my Motu 8pre? and just make midi tracks corresponding to those inputs?

    but then I probably can't use reason...but then again I probly can't use it even if I buy the Alesis or roland trigger to midi interface. Anyone?
     
  7. pr0gr4m

    pr0gr4m Well-Known Member

    From what I've read, that is possible. The signal from a trigger is pretty low so you would probably need the gain from the 8pre to boost the signal from the triggers enough to be able to work with it in your DAW.

    Give it a shot and let us know what the results are!
     

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