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Dual Hard drives

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Caisson, Aug 31, 2005.

  1. Caisson

    Caisson Guest

    I need a step by step run through of...how to hook up dual hard drives in my computer. I was talking to a producer and he was telling about how he has one hardrive doing one thing and the other one doing its own thing. If anyone is familiar, in that area please elaborate on this. My goal is to get the best performance out of my computer.....a have an 80 GB external hardrive and another PC of to the side. If I could use one or both to my advantage that would be great.......

  2. jahme

    jahme Guest

    configure as one master and one slave. simple as that.
  3. axel

    axel Guest

    hi Caisson,

    there are several ways how to use multiple drives,
    here is ONE way of doing it, and that's how i have set it up myself:

    just hook the drives up within your computer 'normally' i mean drive 1 drive slot one, say, drive 2 drive slot 2 and so on external drive(s) via either usb or firewire (i recommend firewire for audio!!)

    use drive one as your application drive and stick your OS on that one plus all your programs, drive two (which should be a 7200rpm drive, better is all drives being 7200rpm for audio work!!) use as your audio drive that means store ALL your audio files, e.g. wave, aiff, sdII, mp3s and so on there and asign this drive to your audio application(s) say logic or cubase as your drive you record on.

    if you have a 3rd or 4th drive to hand use it for example to store your sample library on it or use it as an backup drive...

    or if you have one very big one say 1600gb or 200+ then partition it into two parts and store on one part your sample library and on the second partition your audio files.

    ok in short again
    drive 1 OS / apps
    drive 2 audio
    drive 3 samples
    drive 4 backup

    or in partitions on less drives...

    this is just one example as it depends on how many drives and what drive sizes you have all together...

    hope i made sense and it helps...
  4. axel

    axel Guest

    upps, of course...
    configure the OS - Apps drive as master and the rest as slaves.
  5. gucci

    gucci Guest

    hi there...this is gucci from new delhi...
    im actually a lil confused about this drive business m self.

    say im going in for a 80 gb hard drive for OS , samples and application data like sofsynths etc...plus a 40 gb for backup...would i still have to divide this pie up using..say a partition magic or something?

    please help....
  6. axel

    axel Guest

    hi gucci,

    i am not a complete computer wizard, but i think and friends told me that it makes hardly any sense to partition anything under 80gb, the only advantage is that you are saver in case the HD crashes and you might only loose one partition, in terms of performance no!

    also if it happens that you run a mac and OSX don't bother about it, OSX is handling big drives without a problem and no defragmentation.
    the os has some 'own' way of not being affected from it, i have been told, and i use OSX and don't defrag anymore... no problems at all....

    but maybee a real comp expert is giving us the light on this!

  7. Caisson

    Caisson Guest

    Thanx for the info...........also, can some one tell me the benefits to using to hardrives
  8. axel

    axel Guest

    stability, better performance, security... also space obviously if you do a lot of recording, large sample library or 24bit use...

    in audio you should have at least 2 drives one OS / Apps and one audio - recomendation!
  9. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Distinguished Member

    Apr 7, 2001
    When you partition a hard drive and it crashes... ALL partitions go as well! Remember that partitioning a drive doesn't make it several drives..just one drive sectioned into different sizes. Also that when you do partition it and you are using all partitions at once that makes it one drive working extra to keep up with all the activity.

    IMHO having built, configured, tweaked and what not to DAW systems I have found that the best scenario is this:

    A small 40GB 8MB Cache or higher OS drive with applications installed on to it. Once applications are launched they are very rarely called upon again so installing them onto different drives makes no sense.

    With the OS drive attach an optical drive(CDR/W or DVDR/W)

    Then you can attach two hard drives on the Secondary IDE Controller. One as slave and the other as master. Again, use 8MB Cached drives or higher. When you use all high cached drives you get a better performance through the PCI bus.

    Just make sure to follow the instructions on the jumper settings for the hard drives for proper master or slave settings.

    One drive can be used for samples and whatnot and the other for the audio data for the audio app!

    Opus :D
  10. Caisson

    Caisson Guest

    I have an 80GB external hard drive........can I use this as a slave?

    also can someone quide me though the areas I need to go to do this. Im just trying to solve some dropout problems and also use the resorces around me to keep my computer, at a level state.

    all the input has been great.....
  11. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Distinguished Member

    Apr 7, 2001
    External drives are drives by themselves and do not need to be set as master or slave. They are simply plug and play.

    What type of external drive is it? USB? Firewire?

    Drop outs could be several things. Lots of tracks and plug ins and the buffer size for the audio card is set too low. When you have a lot of information(Tracks, Plugins, VST's) the sound card needs to be able to handle it so you need to raise the buffer higher.

    Very simple...

    On the motherboard you have two IDE Controllers. Primary and Secondary. Typically the Primary is BLUE...Attach the OS drive set as Master to this and the CDROM drive to Slave.

    The Secondary controller is right next to the Primary and is usually BLACK or GREY. Attach one hard drive as Master and the other as Slave to this controller.

    Give us more information as to what you are doing when you get drop outs and what software and any other pertinent information we need to help you.

    Also if you are using just the external drive move the session to the OS drive and see if you still get drop outs.

    Opus :D
  12. Dr_Willie_OBGYN

    Dr_Willie_OBGYN Active Member

    Aug 24, 2005
    Pacific Palisades, CA
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    If you run into problems installing a new drive then check out techsupportforum.com. I added a thrid drive to an Asus Motherboard and someone from this forum helped me do it. Otherwise there was no way I would have been able to do it.
  13. axel

    axel Guest

    cheers Opus,

    great info, cause' me a computer nerd :wink:
  14. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Distinguished Member

    Apr 7, 2001
    From one geek to another! lmao

    Opus :D
  15. Caisson

    Caisson Guest

    I found out the problem.....it was my buffer size in Sonar. It was at 65kb.... I moved it up to 256 and it sounds good
  16. tnjazz

    tnjazz Active Member

    Jan 4, 2005
    Just reserve one drive for applications ONLY (this would be your C: drive assuming you're on a PC) and don't put anything but your audio files on the other drive(s).

    USB can sometimes be problematic with audio streams - if your external is a combo (USB/Firewire) - install a firewire card for $20 and run your audio over it instead. Then you can just use the external "as is". If it's USB only you might benefit from cracking the case, removing the drive and putting it on one of your internal IDE chains, as a previous post suggested.

    I wouldn't partition anything though. One big drive per physical drive.

  17. Caisson

    Caisson Guest

    what kind of problem come up with USB?
  18. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Distinguished Member

    Apr 7, 2001
    USB is very CPU intensive. There are two big CPU hogs within the computer realm...CD ROM Reading and USB bandwidth. USB 2.0 is nice and all but is still not as robust as Firewire.

    USB doesn't have the pull like it should.

    It's good for printers, cameras, USB microphones and any other silly little toys for the computer....

    Audio streaming....not so good.

    Opus :D
  19. Caisson

    Caisson Guest

    is there an interface cable that I can hook up to the USB end to change it over to fire wire or am I stuck with finding another hard drive with firewre cables?
  20. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Distinguished Member

    Apr 7, 2001
    no conversions available....You could open the case up as suggested previously and install it as an IDE drive...otherwise you'd have to get a Firewire External

    Opus :D

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