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Epson R300 printer and printing on CD smudges

Discussion in 'Recording' started by mjatas, Aug 21, 2005.

  1. mjatas

    mjatas Guest

    I printed on almost every CD inkjet printing CD no names and brand names, I use now a hub printable CD Imation, but when I print and water or even if it's hot outside the cd label I printed smudges. How to fix it? I tried to buy a clear labels to go on top of the CD, however they don't sell those here in Canada and the labels don't go directly into the centre for hub cd printing. Help me please.

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  2. maintiger

    maintiger Well-Known Member

    we had that problem with the epson and my wife went online to the printer trouble shooting page and tried everything- the thing that worked, believe it or not, was upplugging the usb cable and plugging it back in... what do you know, it worked! hope it does the trick for you too.
     
  3. Thomas W. Bethel

    Thomas W. Bethel Well-Known Member

    Some people spray their CDs with lacquer to set the ink. Others use ink that is more permanent if your printer has a more permanent ink available use it. We have a Primera Signature Pro and the ink is pretty smudge proof once it has dried but can be smudged right off the printer.

    There are very thin sheets of plastic available on line that will cover a CD completely (except for the center hole) but the add to the cost of making CDs and are not cheap.

    Hope this helps!
     
  4. mjatas

    mjatas Guest

    Hey buddy! What kind of lacquer and where can I buy it? Also what kinds of thin sheets do you buy and where? What do you recommend me do to get the best results?
     
  5. zemlin

    zemlin Well-Known Member

    You need to be very carefull about spraying CDs. Many sprays contain solvents that will degrade the plastic on the CD. Sometimes this can take many weeks, but after a long time the plastic will almost crumble.

    The best I've found is DEFT gloss lacquer.

    You need to be VERY CAREFUL about getting overspray on the backside of the disk. It takes only a tiny spot in the data area to cause trouble.

    I have decideded NOT to spray disks. Controlling dust is a real problem. The only sprays I've found that are good on disks are VERY stinky and even if I spray in the garage I would run my family out of the house with the fumes. It also takes too much time. I run batches of 10-100 disks at a time and doing more than 10 would be a major time hawg.

    I use only TAIYO printable blanks. I have printed many hundreds of CDs with my R300 and have not had any troubles with smudging unless the disk gets wet.

    I don't know how much playing around you've done with media types on that printer. When printing Taiyo CDs I have found that the COLORLIFE paper setting does the best job. Just make sure you have A4 Manual for the size and you can choose any of the media types for printing CD blanks.
     
  6. mjatas

    mjatas Guest

    hey budz thanks for getting into detail for me, however I need a disk that does not smudge. I mean. I want to print cd's that look like like ones you get in a record shop clear because a lot of people have their cd's lieing around and something spills on them or even on a hot day it smudges. And I would like to fix that so my cd's do not smudge. I am using Dysan discs now for inkjet printing and they are hub CD. so prints directly to the centre and also use Imation hub cd's, but the Imation discs are extremely exspensive. I try to use the white discs now because they are not glossy so probably harder to smudge. I never really printed on discs for awhile now because I wanted to get all the info I could so I wouldn't screw up any discs again.

    Also I had a problem were if I use the Epson manufacture inks it runs out really quickly. I printed a nozzle check pattern and I found it wasn't that the patterns were not coming out great so I cleaned the inks and still problem I tried to clean again about 4-5 times and now my ink is gone like 20% lower. I tried refills and same thing. Cleaning the ink sucks it up. I don't know why? my other older printer didn't have this problem.
     
  7. zemlin

    zemlin Well-Known Member

    I rarely have a nozzle that misfires, but when it happens I find I have MUCH better luck if I just pull out the tanks and fire canned air into the holder and on the contacts. I put things back together and 9 times out of 10 it works 100%.

    Quicker and a lot cheaper than a cleaning cycle.
     
  8. mjatas

    mjatas Guest

    what you mean is take out the cartridges and spray the canned air into the holders? AMAZING!!!! I hope it works.

    cleaning cycle just sucks my ink. I need my ink. I don't want to have to refill every few days. i want to keep my ink for at least a few months.
     
  9. mjatas

    mjatas Guest

    so what is the best way to stop it from smudging?
     
  10. zemlin

    zemlin Well-Known Member

    I use TAIYO YUDEN injet blanks. I have not had any trouble with smudging, unless I get water on the CD. I handle them carefully, but once they've cured for a few days I don't worry much about them.

    When the printing is fresh I will put the disks in the jewel case printed side down to protect it and give it time to cure.

    The Taiyo blanks are a matte finish.
     
  11. Reggie

    Reggie Well-Known Member


    Laminate it. You can get a disc laminator for the low low price of around $2G's. Or get a thermal printer; thermal doesn't smudge.
    Or if you want to get that retail CD look, you could spend a few $10G's on a screen printer.

    Otherwise, Taiyo Yuden CDs are very good. But your inkjet prints shall be smudgeable forevermore.
     
  12. mjatas

    mjatas Guest

    At the moment I don't have that kind of money, but any other suggestions for laminating, cheaper or other ways to stop the smudges?
     
  13. zemlin

    zemlin Well-Known Member

    stop drooling on your CDs.
     
  14. mjatas

    mjatas Guest

    ha ha ha. what happened was I took a shower and my hands were still a little wet so I put my hand on the cd from the edges but a drop of water went on the cd from my wet hair and i tried to wipe it off and it smudged. So i want to know because i had times when my other cd's from HMV had water on them and I just rumb it with a towel and they where okay. why does it smuge anyways and I need an answer on how to stop it from smuging?
     
  15. zemlin

    zemlin Well-Known Member

    That's a limitation of the inkjet process.
    It's either going to take time (spraying lacquer), money, or both to solve it and the options have been outlined pretty well above.
     
  16. mjatas

    mjatas Guest

    So the only thing that would be cheapest is the spray huh? Where could I get the DEFT spray that doesn't destroy my CD and best for inkjet prints? I could do a few outside. I don't need to do a lot anyways so quantity at the moment is not an issue.
     
  17. mjatas

    mjatas Guest

    What about those clear labels they have. I can just put a clear label over the face of the CD and it would work??? Where can I buy those Taiyo Yuden discs?? Can I buy them in Canada?
     
  18. zemlin

    zemlin Well-Known Member

    http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=taiyo+inkjet&btnG=Search+Froogle&scoring=p

    The only clear labels I've found have been too pricey for me to consider using. Never tried them. I did mess around a little with laminating film, but it did not lay perfectly on the disk and trimming was a PITA.

    DEFT is a wood finish. Any place that sells a good variety of paint and varnish will likely have DEFT spray.
     
  19. Thomas W. Bethel

    Thomas W. Bethel Well-Known Member

    We have tried to use clear labels over the disk but they do not work as well as you might think. They don't go down over the inked surface uniformly and you can get small air bubbles with the clear labels applied over an inked surface. Also the clear labels have a tendency to lift off in high heat and humidity and when they do the take part of the inked surface with them. Not a good solution. The very thin clear labels that some are recommending are better but anytime you put something over a label it will change the way the label looks and may come off in someone's CD player, especially the slot loading variety so popular in cars these days.

    I personally think that others have tried to give you some very good suggestions and you seem not to want to listen to them and are trying to find some type of "cheap" fix that will do what you want. Please believe me we have tried a lot of different ideas and if you want pro looking labels then you have to do it in a pro way. Either spay the surface with lacquer or use heat transfer or go for screen printing and spend the money to do it.
     
  20. mjatas

    mjatas Guest

    Hey Zemlin thanks for the link I will definetly try the CD discs and see how good they are. I will also ask maybe Home depot or Rona if they have the DEFT spray and see how good it will be. I will try. What DEFT spay paint should I buy though. Is it called clear or see-through? Oh 1 other question is are the white discs better to use then the silver ones? I believe that the white discs are matte so they might not rub off as much and the silver are glossy so maybe more rubbing? Is there a difference. The reason I want to stress on the rubbing because I hate when customers buy my cd and it smudges, but then again at the momement I can not afford those big money spenders. :cry:
     

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