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EV RE20 vs RE320

Discussion in 'Microphones' started by paulears, Mar 16, 2015.

  1. paulears

    paulears Well-Known Member

    I've never used the EV RE20, but I know many of you US people swear by them, along with the Shure SM7, and I know the radio and VO people really like them. They're just not very popular here. However, I have two different projects coming up and it occurred to me that the 320, could possibly do both. The first job involves a non-music recording project where the person I need to record decent audio from moves around. I watched the EVmicman videos on youtube, and for the first time discovered the lack of proximity effect these mics have by design. They're a little larger than I really need, but the other project involves recording two drummers, and I only have one nice kick mic, so I need to source another. If the hype is to believed, this mic will do both jobs? Really? The crazy thing is I can buy a used but perfect one from a number of places in the US on UK ebay. This used, but not even a finger print is very similar to how counterfeiters are flogging dodgy SM57/58 now - claiming it's almost new, when they are brand new, but dodgy.

    So - are these 320s good, and has anyone heard if they're being copied? Seems too good to be true at the price.
     
  2. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    I can't say, Paul. My only experience is with the RE20, which I have and really like. It's my favorite go-to for kick, but it's also great on a bass amp, guitar amp (I love using an RE20 and a Ribbon mic combo on guitar amps), brass, and a multitude of other applications as well.

    I've been told from an engineer friend - who has both - that there are obvious differences between the two, most notably, the 320 has a "brighter" top end, with a bump of sorts around 8-10k, but I can't attest to that personally, I'm just letting you know what I've been told.

    Might this be helpful?

     
  3. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    Don't quibble - just buy the RE20. Mine is almost 20 years old, and gets a lot of use. The funny thing is, until I got one I didn't realise that I had an exactly RE20-shaped hole in my mic locker.
     
  4. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    I agree with Bos... The RE20 is tried and true... but there is a substantial price difference between them - LOL... according to what your own definition of "substantial" is, of course...

    The RE20 -new - retails for $449, U.S.

    The RE320 - new -retails for $299, U.S.

    Both of the above prices were found on Sweetwater, although I'm seeing prices as low as $150 on ebay for the 320... now, whether or not you trust purchasing either of these mics in used condition from an ebay seller is an entirely different topic. ;)

    I'm not aware of any counterfeit knock-offs - as can be more commonly found with 58's and 57's - but that doesn't mean there aren't any out there. ;)
     
  5. paulears

    paulears Well-Known Member

    Thanks guys. As a newcomer to all Ev mics, except the omni interview mic I had years ago, the sound did remind me of when I've heard US radio programmes - I assumed the sound of the presenters and adverts was down to compression in the chain to the transmitters, but the RE20 did sound kind of familiar? That said, the RE320 sounded brighter - perhaps more 'european'?? The switch to notch out a bit of 400Hz made sense, but you all like the RE20 on kick anyway. Do you still have to knock out a little down the bottom to make it 'thump'? I suppose that's what the new one is aiming at. The Vmic man videos are pretty useful - I just wasn't sure how 'spun' they were. The other comparison videos I found on youtube had dreadful audio. what's the point in a youtube video review that has terrible sound quality? I can pick up a 320 for a sensible amount, and an 20 for not too much more. Difficult decision, because I rarely buy a mic without hearing it - but the variable -D system is pretty neat.
     
  6. pan60

    pan60 Active Member

    I agree with Boswell get the RE-20.
     
  7. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    the 320 is voiced and has a filter to accomodate modern kick drum sounds. RE20 is a different animal with a nice roll off feature and is primarily intended as a v/o mic although it shines in other applications as well.
     
  8. moonbaby

    moonbaby Mmmmmm Well-Known Member

    I took my RE-20 to the local GC a while back to compare the 2 mics. They are not the same at all, and I was concerned that my RE-20 was not right (it was OK). There was a "scoop" to the 320's sound (in the vocal mode) that I was not onboard with.
    Recording Hacks has some "shoot-outs" that address the differences in the 2 mics for both kick and vocals...you may find them interesting.
     
  9. paulears

    paulears Well-Known Member

    Well - the result is in. I gave my supplier a call, and they said they'd send me both, and I could send back the one I didn't want. They arrived and it took me about 5 minutes to decide that the 320 would be staying and the 20 was going back. The RE320 definitely does both jobs for me. The voice sounds crisper (which is perhaps just a European thing - many of our favourite mics that aren't shared commonly, like Shures, seem to have this slightly brighter tone to them), the RE20 was a bit mellow sounding. A 'big' sound, and not unpleasant, but just a bit older sounding - if that makes sense? I like the sound of the AKG112 on kick drum, which I'm aware may don't - some hating it - and I wondered if the 320 would sound similar, but it's much deeper on the kick position than I imagined, and a good alternative to the 112. The 20 was a deeper sounding tone - which would have been even more contrasty, but I really don't record much music of that type, and my live stuff really doesn't need that bottom end thud.

    So that was it, the 20 went back and the 320 is in the mic box - well, actually it's not, because it doesn't fit!
     
  10. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    Thanks for the update Paul.

    There's really only one criteria when choosing any piece of equipment... and that is simply, does it do what you want it to do?

    It sounds as if you based your choice on that, and, that's enough. ;)
     

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